Immigration Bill is Dead: "Major Defeat for President Bush"

By: Lowell
Published On: 6/28/2007 1:34:25 PM

The Washington Post reports:

The most dramatic overhaul of the nation's immigration laws in a generation was trounced this morning by a bipartisan filibuster, with the political right and left overwhelming a coalition of Republicans and Democrats who had been seeking compromise on one of the most difficult social and economic issues facing the country.

The 46-53 tally fell dramatically short of the 60 votes needed to overcome opponents' dilatory tactics and parliamentary maneuvers that have dogged the bill for weeks.

Jim Webb and John Warner both voted no, helping to kill immigration reform for this year (and probably for many years to come).  The Washington Post calls this "a major defeat for President Bush, dealt largely by members of his own party."  In the end, 37 Republicans, 15 Democrats, and 1 Independent (Bernie Sanders of Vermont) voted "nay" on cloture.  Interestingly, all the Democratic Presidential candidates - Senators Biden, Clinton, Dodd and Obama - voted yes.  On the Republican side, John McCain voted yes, which will almost certainly hurt him even more with the right wing of his party.


Comments



All right! (Hugo Estrada - 6/28/2007 2:46:28 PM)
This news makes my day :)


The problem is that (Lowell - 6/28/2007 2:55:21 PM)
this means the immigration status quo will continue indefinitely.  That won't make anyone happy.


Congratulations we will now continue to have defacto amnesty n/t (novamiddleman - 6/28/2007 3:25:42 PM)


We willl also continue to have corporations (Lowell - 6/28/2007 3:26:45 PM)
exploiting and abusing illegal immigrants, ad infinitum.  Wonderful...


Lowell...be honest... (doctormatt06 - 6/28/2007 3:59:11 PM)
This legislation only worsened corporate abuse of immigrant workers, in fact, it seemed to almost enshrine it into law, there was little to no attempts to punish companies who shortshrift American labor by reducing incentives to hire American workers.  Paying workers below minimum wages has consequences.


I honestly don't know. (Lowell - 6/28/2007 4:09:38 PM)
But I know that Ted Kennedy signed on, so it's hard to believe it was THAT bad!


Well... (doctormatt06 - 6/28/2007 4:17:03 PM)
Let's put it this way, Ted Kennedy signed on to NCLB, and that was SUCH a wonderful bill for us teachers.  Just because congress signs something that has bipartisan support, doesn't necesarily make it good.


True, NCLB sucks. (Lowell - 6/28/2007 4:22:02 PM)
What's up with Sen. Kennedy these days?  Not as much of a "liberal" as the right wingers make him out to be, perhaps?


he's a liberal..don't worry... (doctormatt06 - 6/28/2007 4:27:04 PM)
Its just he has all these big ideas, and his getting older, and he probably didn't want to wait for there to be a democratic congress before he was able to do some of things he had in mind, i don't slight him for it, I just don't think he's always pushing the best legislation


Yeap!! (JScott - 6/28/2007 8:50:56 PM)
Yeah. and keep in mind the people who support that defacto amnesty and who use rhetoric that the border needs to be secured but never can pull the trigger on real measures to get it done. I was not surprised Clinton and Obama or of course McCain's votes, but Biden's was surprising to me.


The bill would have made many people unhappy (Hugo Estrada - 6/28/2007 6:32:42 PM)
We know what it is like with the status quo. Not great, but we can live with it.

This bill was bad for American workers, bad for undocumented workers, bad for families trying to reunify in the U.S., and bad for immigrants trying to come to the country.

And the number of amendments was dizzying. The bill became a wildcard where non of us knew what would we would end up with.

Since this kind of legislation only comes by every 20 years or so, it is important to get it right.

 



This is why I was (Sui Juris - 6/28/2007 7:53:09 PM)
happy to see it collapse.  It *does* have to be done right, and I don't trust the current Congress and President to do it right.

The status quo isn't ideal, but I can live with it until we get it right.  If the xenophobes heads explode and the GOP implodes on itself in the meantime, all the better.



From the Coalition for Comprehensive (Lowell - 6/28/2007 4:25:38 PM)
Immigration Reform (CCIR)...

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:  June 28, 2007

Virginia CCIR Issues Statement on Senate Cloture Vote

Virginia Senators Criticized for Voting to Kill Needed Reform

Richmond, VA - Claire Guthrie GastaƱaga, who is coordinating the efforts of the Virginia Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform, a project of the Virginia Justice Center and the Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform, issued the following statement on behalf of the Coalition today regarding the Senate vote to kill comprehensive immigration reform:

We are very disappointed that Virginia Senators John Warner and Jim Webb voted to kill the comprehensive immigration reform bill. The need for reform is pressing, and it is not going away. The federal system is broken and the failure to address the issue will further frustrate the overwhelming majority of Americans who want the system fixed and fixed now. The Senators' refusal to act positively to move reform forward will leave millions living in fear and exacerbate the "we-they" issues that increasingly are driving Virginia communities apart as they seek to deal with the fallout of the failed federal policy.

The Senators' vote to kill reform preserves an untenable status quo that leaves in place the perverse incentives that provoke both scofflaws and vigilantes, affirms the invitation to exploitation that undermines the working conditions of American and immigrant workers, kills the dreams of school children who want nothing more than an equal opportunity to continue their education, and threatens the economic well-being of the agricultural businesses that are a vital part of Virginia's economy. We simply cannot deport our way out of this problem.

VACCIR will deliver to Senator Webb's office in Richmond today another 208 postcards from Virginians who support comprehensive reform. This brings to more than 800 the number of Virginians who have put their names on the line in favor of reform.



With all due respect, they are wrong in their timing (Hugo Estrada - 6/28/2007 6:44:58 PM)
This is not the time to have immigration reform. Any bill passed at this point would be at the expense of undocumented workers.

I, for one, would never advocate to get a bill passed during a period of time when there is mounting racism/xenophobia against people from Latin Americans, who, fairly or unfairly, are the face of undocumented workers today.

I would avoid pushing the issue when the temptation to gain quick political points via ethnic hatred is so strong for politicians.

Especially when the Republican Party, now in crisis, can see pandering to racists may be a way out of the electoral hole that they dug for themselves.

If the bill was going to pass, it was going to have to concede some points to the xenophobes and racists. And since they are against any kind of legalization, that would have meant some nasty restriction which advocates of undocumented workers wouldn't like.



Window of Opportunity (JScott - 6/28/2007 8:46:18 PM)
Well my friends the President of the United States has an opportunity before him to right the ship right here on immigration by turning defeat into triumph. How? By simply scheduling a conversation with America from the Oval Office on national television stating that the failure of the bill demonstrates Amercians resolve that the current laws before the land should be enforced, our borders are a matter of national security under both Homeland/NSA, our border patrol issues need to be addressed through adequate funding and the fence shall now be completed in a timely manner as set for in prior funding legislation (thank you Duncan Hunter) so lets go forth and get these things done as America has indeed spoken.
Very Reaganesque ugh? Too bad it will never happen. It should but it will not. He has been unable to look defeat in the eye and turn it to victory on matters like this. It a shame, could make for some fireworks.


Jim Webb Statement (Lowell - 6/28/2007 5:29:58 PM)
Senator Webb: ?Enforce the Laws on the Books?

Washington, DC? The following is a statement issued by Senator Jim Webb following the failed cloture vote on the immigration bill:

?Given today?s immigration impasse, it is more important that the President vigorously enforce the laws that are on the books and that we search for new ways to implement broader reform. Our present laws already include tough civil and criminal penalties for companies that knowingly hire illegal immigrants.  They also allow us to gain control over our porous borders by properly utilizing the assets and legal means that are now at our disposal.

?One sensible proposal to come from the bill, supported overwhelmingly by my colleagues in the Senate, was a $4.4 billion allocation aimed at securing our borders and enforcing our laws at the workplace.  I believe we should proceed with appropriating these funds for enhanced border security and workplace enforcement.  I will make it a priority over the course of this legislative session to see that this appropriation of funds happens.?

For audio of this statement, please go to: http://demradio.sena...



Status Quo... (MohawkOV1D - 6/28/2007 6:17:25 PM)
After a fashion.

States are picking up where the Fed. Gov. has failed.  States are now empowering police to require immigration status from those that are stopped for traffic violations or are otherwise brought before the court.

I fell VA will become much more unfriendly to illegal immigrants.



Why not just enforce the current federal laws? (Hugo Estrada - 6/28/2007 6:48:10 PM)
Frankly, it is a waste of resources to put the police to do the job of ICE. The police has more important things to deal with, such as real crimes like robberies and murder.

Fund the federal agencies involved with immigration, and enforce the current laws, as Jim Webb says.



Good news / Bad news (relawson - 6/28/2007 8:17:15 PM)
This is a blessing and a curse.

The good news - this bill had too much corporate influence and was not designed with the best intentions for American workers or immigrants.  I stunk to high heaven of corporate favors.

The bad news - we have serious problems with our immigration system that probably won't be fixed any time soon.

The cure - in my estimation, this bill was poisoned by special interests and extremes.  We can't do anything about the extremes - they have every right to voice their opinion and be part of the process.  We can however curtail the influence of corporations - and we should.

I believe that without corporate lobbyists meddling with this bill, both sides could have reached an agreement and an immigration reform bill would have passed the Senate. 

Campaign finance reform and ethics reforms are critical to our government functioning.  I believe we should focus on solving the root issue - corruption - and only then can we solve these other big issues.

Unless we solve the problem of corruption and big money in our political system, we will never find fairness in the political process.  We will find ourselves reaching a stalemate on urgent matters like this.