More moderate/populist/progressive Dems than Liberal dems

By: relawson
Published On: 6/10/2007 9:51:17 AM

At least in the RK poll.  I wonder how Democrats define themselves nationwide.  I suspect that we aren't as far left as we are portrayed. 

Don't get me wrong, I am not attacking the left here.  I am simply pointing out that the Democratic party seems to be well balanced.  I value the views of the left - don't always agree with them - and I suspect they feel the same about my views. 

* Liberal Democrat - 47 votes (31.97%)
* Moderate Democat - 36 votes (24.49%)
* Jim Webb Populist - 21 votes (14.29%)
* TR/RFK Progressive - 19 votes (12.93%)


Comments



It's interesting, so far... (Lowell - 6/10/2007 9:57:52 AM)
..."Liberal Democrat" has a plurality of 32%, but you're right, the other categories represent the big majority (the remaining 68%).  Personally, I'm a TR/RFK Progressive, combined with somewhat of a "Jim Webb Populist."  All in all, it looks like we've got a diverse group of Democrats, with a few Republicans as well, here at RK.  It's certainly not the "far left" that the Republicans like to pretend we are.  Of course, Linda Smyth would just say we're all Republicans because we don't support her.  Ha. :)


What's a Webb Populist? (presidentialman - 6/10/2007 1:54:11 PM)
What is a Jim Webb populist?  When Webb kept saying "the rich never had it so good" and a lot of people got onto the Webb bandwagon it seemed that the Bush tax cuts upset the status quo Moderate Democrats like me, and that they're trying to right a wrong, and Webb's still duking it out in the Senate means that they're still trying to right the wrong.  But once that is done, will we go back to been ambivalent about reform.


I think that Jim Webb has articulated his populism (Lowell - 6/10/2007 8:47:28 PM)
very clearly and extensively.  It's related to Jacksonian Democracy and to the idea that government should serve the interests of working people as opposed to the rich and powerful.  One way Jim Webb explains it is that the health of a society should be measured at its base, not at its apex.  Although I guess that's "progressivism" as well as "populism."  Sometimes, but not always, there's overlap between the two.


somewhat misleading (DanG - 6/10/2007 4:33:25 PM)
I voted Jim Webb populist, but I'm clearly a moderate Democrat as well (some might even say Conservative Democrat).  I think that you can be a Progressive AND a Liberal, or a Populist AND a Moderate, or vice-versa.  In that sense, I'm not entirely sure how telling the poll is.


I agree. (Lowell - 6/10/2007 4:41:03 PM)
This poll has overlapping categories, and as such is not "additive" in any meaningful sense.  For instance, I consider myself "populist" on trade and economic issues (e.g., I'm for "fair trade" and against corporate welfare), "progressive" on environmental and health care issues (e.g., I believe we should slash carbon emissions and provide everyone with quality health care access), "libertarian" on social issues (e.g., government should stay the hell out of our bedrooms), and "moderate" on fiscal matters (e.g., balance the budget, run a lean government). 

So what does that make me?  I picked "TR/RFK Progressive" because that's the one I feel strongest about and which I see as the best fit for me.  However, I've got elements of several other categories that fit me as well.

In sum, this is simply a fun little poll that I thought would be interesting to do, maybe generate a bit of discussion.  There's not much more to it, really.



Here's a link to the Rolling Stone (Catzmaw - 6/12/2007 2:16:56 PM)
online portion of the article about Webb.  Fortunately, I have a subscription to Rolling Stone (music loving teens in the house), and got the entire article. 


I voted Jim Webb populist also (relawson - 6/10/2007 7:31:09 PM)
Not sure what that means - I don't agree with Jim Webb 100% of the time - but if I had to pick a model for the direction the party should go it would be based upon how he leads. 

I especially like that when you have most politicians unapologetically representing the corporate interests, Jim Webb unapologetically represents the interests of the working class.  People will call that class warfare - but the people usually screaming "class warfare" are the very ones engaging in it and representing the special interests.

We are already in class warfare.  Unfortunately, only the corporations know that they are at war against the working class - so it is really a turkey shoot and we are the turkeys.  The PR machine they control hides that fact.