DONOHUE: Look, just hold on here. You had your time. Look, the kid's a phony, and here's why: I dealt with him earlier today on an MSNBC show, and I said we could hypothesize that there'd be a Columbia University pingpong team made of Asians, and somebody goes out there and says, "All [SLUR] go home." So I asked him about my [SLUR] joke. And guess what? Andy's sense of humor just collapsed. He found that offensive. You see what you are? You're a phony. You're a typical Ivy League little brat who thinks it's OK to dump on Catholics, but you don't like my [SLUR] joke. Now, what's wrong with a [SLUR] joke?Unbelievable. Somehow, to this guy, a joke about a covered-up scandal in the Catholic church is the same as using a racial slur! Watch the video clip at the link as the last shred of this guy's intellectual honesty circles the drain.
Donohue, however, has no excuse. I'm waiting for the apology.
That's the right way to treat former enemies.
Donohue has no excuse. But his entire philosophy seems to be permeated with intolerance. And he seems to be extremely close-minded when it comes to honest and well-intended criticism of his religion.
His relentless, obnoxious screaming, his whiney pose of victimhood--- all is part of the greater plan to secure for the radical religious right (which includes some Catholics as well as extreme evangelicals) top dog political dominance and turn America into what I believe it was George Will called a Christianist nation.
In other words, this small video is only a snippet of what awaits us unless this nest of vipers is discredited and removed from any influence.
so true. the fact that he kept using the racial slur to describe the joke instead of following the example of his larger point by calling it something else like "the racially insensitive joke", betrays what he REALLY wanted to say: "asians are easy to pick on in the media and i think that's what i'll do right now."
as a christian, i do notice that it is acceptable to publicly disparage christianity in ways that would be unfathomable for other sub-groups but the kid is right. making fun of a group's universally accepted guilt in trangression is infinitely less offensive than making fun of a group's core identity. that's the difference between what the student said and what Donohue said and that's why Donohue is a racist bully.
of course, i'm preaching to the choir here... don't mind me.
Here's the most notorious of Ms. Marcotte's posts that drew Donohue's ire. http://pandagon.net/... The subject of her post is official Catholic doctrine on contraception, which she argues vehemently against.
In America, the contraception debate goes on only among the diehards. Overwhelmingly, Catholics approve of birth control.
Birth control/contraception is supported by 93 percent of all adults, including 90 percent of Catholics and 88 percent of born-again Christians, the "very religious" and Evangelicals. http://www.harrisint... 10/05 poll
Poll: Most Catholic MDs dissent from Church teachingsFlemington, New Jersey, Apr. 26, 2005 (CNA/CWNews.com) - A very large number of Catholic physicians support and medical treatments and ethical stances that are contrary to Church teaching and which have been the source of debate in the United States, says a new study released last week.
According to the survey, 87 percent of Catholic doctors said they would "prescribe birth control pills to any adult patients that request them and for whom they are medically appropriate." Of the doctors who were surveyed, 93 percent said they agreed.
John Zogby does extensive polling for a Catholic organization. In one poll, 86% of U.S. Catholics polled agreed that people who have premarital sex can be good Catholics. http://www.zogby.com... 79% said that gay and lesbian people can be good Catholics.
"When "marriage" was defined legally and respondents were asked whether same-sex couples should be allowed to legally marry, 39% agreed. American Catholics showed the highest approval (62%) for civil unions, which provide the same legal rights and protections as marriage without being called "marriage." * * * On the issue of women's ordination, almost 62% of respondents agreed that a woman who feels called to the priesthood should be ordained.
In another poll, "Catholics [were] evenly split when asked if "all abortions should be illegal" (50% believe all abortions should be illegal, while 49% disagree and about 1% of respondents are undecided)." http://www.zogby.com...
I agree with Teddy that part of this attack is politically motivated and that we must be vigilant. However when I think back about, e.g., what is routinely viewed in the mass media by millions, there's just no comparison with, say, 1960 when Dick van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore had separate beds.
But think of the real significance of these trends and the polling data above. They threaten such core Catholic notions as papal infallibility on doctrinal matters. And they suggest lots of the faithful think lots of the daily rules were just made up and don't spring from anything Godly or eternal.