Bill Gates Busted

By: TurnVirginiaBlue
Published On: 2/7/2007 7:28:26 PM

cross posted at Dailykos

Bill Gates has been busted in a big fat lie and we've got the statistics to prove it.

Last year, Microsoft founder Bill Gates told Washington Post columnist David Broder that the types of people they were bringing in on H-1B Visas, are:


Highly paid, highly qualified individuals. Salaries for these jobs at Microsoft start at about $100,000 a year.
Their counterparts can be hired more cheaply in China or India, he said, but Microsoft does 85 percent of its research and development work in the United States because it wants its computer scientists interacting directly with its program managers and its marketing people on its own campus.

Gates was pounding the halls of Congress at time of this interview, demanding more H-1B Visas along with the ITAA.
Unfortunately for Bill Gates, when a Corporation sponsors a green card, they must publish the actual salary along with the application.

Microsoft Green Card Application Salaries

From the graph above and the table below, only 3.3%, or 40 employees, of the 1202 total green card applications submitted by Microsoft had wages above $100k.

In fact, more applications, 8.3%, or 92 employees, were paid salaries below $60k.  Most of the jobs titles of  the 1202 applications were Software Engineer, an entry level job indicator.

The median salary for all was $71k, well below the $100k that Bill Gates touted in his claim of a great shortage of "talent" in America (read cheap, controllable and young).

The job title "Software Engineer" is an entry level job position, such a role would never be given to the level of expertise that Bill Gates claims he is obtaining through his cheap labor H-1B Visa.



   


















Salary # of Emp. Cum. %
5000000.00%
55000 8 0.67%
60k 92 8.32%
65k 166 22.13%
70k 251 43.01%
75k 270 65.47%
80k 180 80.45%
85k 99 88.69%
90k 46 92.51%
95k 23 94.43%
99.99k 27 96.67%
105k 19 98.25%
110k 8 98.92%
115k 2 99.08%
120k 4 99.42%
125k 3 99.67%
130k 1 99.75%
135k 0 99.75%
>135k 3 100.00%

My question is, how come we, the bloggers, have to do David Broder's, Dean of Political Reporters as claimed by Tim Russert,  job and research the actual facts versus publish the propaganda spewing from Bill Gates mouth as he demands Congress meet his cheap labor vehicle demands?

Is it because when Bill Gates, the richest guy in the world, demands more cheap labor vehicles, he gets them, like a feudal lord would if he demands a head on a platter?

head on a platter


Comments



Where is the graph (Gordie - 2/7/2007 11:12:52 PM)
that shows the US citzens who were hired in that time period? That would give me a better understanding how the salaries are being spread around.
Did you look at the question of the value or experience of these employees. Everyone  seems to believe these H-1b visa people are the cream of the crop. Are They?

As I have said on this blog in the past. Graphs can tell the story the producer want to tell. And in this case it sounds like a Bill Gates bashing.



I remember reading a story (Catzmaw - 2/7/2007 11:41:51 PM)
several months ago which spoke of a study which determined that there is actually a great deal of fraud and lack of uniformity in the Indian and Chinese educational institutions providing certifications of software engineers and the like.  India does not appear to have an enforceable and clearly delineated standard for what constitutes an engineer.  The story was actually about the supposed superiority of India's science education system, which upon examination turned out to be a hodgepodge of everything from diploma mills to schools of genuine excellence.  Very interesting stuff.


asdf (TurnVirginiaBlue - 2/8/2007 1:12:26 AM)
The employment rate for US citizens has been flat but most interesting the total number of aggregate S,T, E jobs has reduced.

I don't have the statistics right now, the IEEE-USA often does, but this diary's focus is that Bill Gates was claiming H-1Bs were being hired in at 100k plus.

I also know that H-1Bs are routinely paid 18k less than
US citizens for the same job.



It proves Gates factually wrong (relawson - 2/8/2007 8:55:59 PM)
This isn't about bashing Gates.  It's about pointing out his attempts to mislead Congress.  Factually, he was wrong. 

Because it was about his own company - and he should have known the facts - I feel safe calling him a liar.  I don't use that word loosely.

Do the majority of H-1b workers make more or less than $100k a year?  Gates said they earn more.  The facts say that they earn less - in fact much less.  Let's call a spade a spade and a liar a liar.



The truth stings (relawson - 2/7/2007 11:18:38 PM)
Microsoft is one of the better places for them to work for H-1b holders - most companies pay way less than MS, but when you look at facts Bill Gates is wrong - he lied. 

Why not set the minimum wage for H-1b holders to $100k since that is what Gates says they are all paid?



Nice analysis, TVB (Kathy Gerber - 2/9/2007 10:45:48 PM)
If he had said 75K, that would have been only a slight stretch, but 100K is way beyond anything like fudging.


M$: "What can we outsource today?" (Info_Tech_Guy - 2/10/2007 12:51:19 PM)
The fact that Bill Gates regularly makes outlandish claims of a vast "high tech labor shortage" in the U.S. while doing everything possible to move work offshore and replace American IT workers is critical backdrop to this story. This is an example of the deliberate lies and misrepresentations which Bill Gates and his company have engaged in for years.


The media seems completely disinterested in this (Catzmaw - 2/10/2007 1:45:02 PM)
and I never see anyone questioning this so-called "shortage" of IT professionals.  As far as putting the lie to Bill Gates, I've given up on regular media and hope fervently that The Simpsons does another on-target episode.  The one they did on him about 10 or 12 years ago is still fresh today. 


Stripping Away the Myths (Info_Tech_Guy - 2/10/2007 6:32:35 PM)
If real debate is ever to take place it's important for us all to "think different" -- not just accept the tired opinions of establishment "experts" who fawn all over people like Gates as if they embody the "greatness" to which we should all aspire.

In my opinion, Bill Gates, like so many other "leaders" are "mis-leaders". I believe that closer scrutiny will show that Gates has been incorrectly characterised as a great technologist and innovator. Far from being an innovator, Gates is just shrewd, ruthless, and unprincipled corporate monopolist. The success of Microsoft has less to do with substance and more to do with marketing, monopoly and the ability to adapt ideas originating from outside M$.