Who do we draft though?  Can you think of any Jim Webb Democrats?  I mean, that was a once in a lifetime opportunity. 

Harris Miller?  Nope.  Tim Kaine?  Not if we want to hand the Executive Power over to Bill Bolling.  Mark Warner?  He'll either run or he won't; I doubt we can do anything to change his mind one way or another.  Creigh Deeds?  Wants to be Governor.  Brian Moran?  Also wants to be Governor.  Who else do we have?

n/t

But with Webb, we at least knew he was interested in the idea.  Grisham has, to this point, shown no interest in getting back into the political field.  Still, I would support a Grisham for Senate Campaign, if onlf for our shared love of Baseball.

If he indicates any interest in politics at all, PLEASE lets start with the 5th........

alleging he wrongly fingered someone as the originator of some  anonymous hate mail or notes to someone else?  Saw something in the paper about it a few weeks ago, but I can't remember the gist.  However, he may not be inclined to run for office at a time when he's got a little controversy going on. 

Meanwhile, check this out:

Unfortunately, it sppears that Zinni "plans to avoid politics in the future."  That's too bad; he would be a great choice to run against John Warner, with Iraq the #1 issue.

Maybe we can get Webb to talk some sense into Zinni, and maybe he'll run!

John Warner's getting re-elected. There's only the possibility he could get a primary challenge. But I don't think any Republican is that stupid.

Hey, if it makes you feel any better...Tom Davis ain't too happy either!

Mark Warner, Mark Warner, Mark Warner. And make sure his name is on the top of the ballot.

Not sure how we do that...

Unlike running for President, or even Vice President, running for the Senate would not be as disruptive to his family life or affect his children as much.  They would be much less in the limelight if he were in the Senate.  And he already lives in Alexandria.  So he wouldn't have to uproot his kids from their schools.

I know he's supposed to want to be governor again.  But maybe he can be convinced that he's already done that successfully, and this would be a new and exciting challenge.

Also, he's still young enough that if he harbors future presidential aspirations, some time in the Senate in addition to his very successful term as governor, would be better for his resume.

I think after Bush's foreign affairs gaffes, a govenor, no matter how successful and capable, without foreign policy experience, won't look as attractive to voters as he did in the past.  After Iraq, a lot the electoral dynamics have changed.

And if you're already from NOVA, the U.S. Senate is really a dream job.

Anyways, half of Virginia wants to run for Governor in 2009. And I don't think we need a Mark Warner to beat Bolling or McDonnell.

Come on Lowell, can you please start a draft again!!!! please!!!! We need someone who doesn't flip flop in the Senate.

Hagel and John Warner are as cowardly as any member of the Senate can be.

But, then so are the D's for buckling under and supporting Warner.

I've said it for years, those are the ones we should be targeting, especially in progressive areas like Northern Virginia, and certainly in the liberal Northeastern United States.

Instead of dreaming of a solid Democratic South and trying to take places like Alabama and Mississippi, which are very conservative regardless of political party, I've long thought we should put more energy and resources into recapturing New England, the Mid-Atlantic, the industrial Midwest and some of the far West states.

Republicans seldom worry, in national elections, that they are going to lose New York City or Boston.  We need to start going after so-called moderate Republicans in liberal areas.  Yes, that means Arlen Specter in Pennsylvania too.

Those are the ones who run as pro-choice, anti-war, etc., and talk a good game.  Then, when they are in office, they often crumble to their more conservative leadership.  And they are also the ones who helped to keep the much more conservative Republicans in leadership roles until this past election.  Let's face it, if Lincoln Chafee had won - and I liked him a lot - we would not have a Democratic Senate now. Regardless of how many times he voted with Democrats, Republicans would still be controlling the agenda if he had won.

Every Republican in the progressive parts of this country should face a strong Democratic challenge.  Once we've built up bigger majorities by competing successfully in liberal areas like New England, then, we can compete in the South too.

Virginia has a Senate race in 2008 and we need to start early if we want to win it. This seat is currently held by the horriible John Warner (R). John Warner gets a D+ on Veteran and defense issues by the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans Association, an 8/100 on seniors issues from Alilance for Retired Americas, a 14/100 on environment from LCV, 16/100 on labor issues from AFL-CIO and 21/100 on choice from Planned Parenthood.

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John Warner is not your friend.  He's just a damned sight less demented than George Allen.

Uhhh, no.  He's from Little Rock, Arkansas.  Lived in Virginia long ago at some point in his military career (Ft. Monroe possibly?) Also lived in NoVA while he was working in the OMB and the Pentagon.

And he also lives in Little Rock.

Clark could run, but the General is an Arkansas man.

I don't think he would run in Virginia.

Where does Tony Zinni live?

I think, I know for sure he teaches at William & Mary. So he can't live far from the school.

He used to live in NOVA some time ago. =)

DR Montoya,
General Clark lives in Little Rock, Arkansas.  He does not have a home in Arlington, is not a resident anywhere in Virginia and therefore could not run in any Virginia race. 

..but did anyone notice that John McCain failed to even show up to vote, along with RNC Chair Mel Martinez.

I just sent an email to both Senator Warner and Senator Hagel's offices stating how disappointed and dismayed I was by their votes.  Not being a Nebraska resident I don't expect that my email to Senator Hagel will have any traction, although I do have relatives who live in Nebraska, but I intend to follow up my email with a call to Senator Warner's office in DC.  I DO live in Virginia and I will express myself forcefully (but politely) to the staffers of a senator who is my elected representative.  Unlike some of our representatives (we know who they are...) I will take a stand and express an opinion even though I know the Senator in question is not going to be moved to change his position.  Some of our  elected officials have used as an excuse, "Oh he (Bush) isn't going to pay attention to such a resolution anyway" as an excuse to continue their partisan politics-as-usual votes, but I say, that does NOT absolve you from the responsibility to speak out and continue to speak out.  Put yourself on record.  Vote as you have said you believe, having the courage of your convictions.  No wonder the American public has become increasing cynical about politicians and the political process.  Let's those of us who do live here in Virginia remind Senator Warner with a flood of emails and phone calls that we are watching and we will remember that his vote did not match his rhetoric when it came down to the true test.

If I remember correctly, just about a year and a half ago Republicans were really into having "up or down" votes in the Senate.

Warner's vote is very disappointing, proving that meme that Republicans show more loyalty to the party than to the country. Very unfortunate from a man whose public statements make it clear that he understands what is right.

There is also a lesson for Senate Democrats in the Warner vote. In an effort to come up with a more "bipartisan" resolution, they watered down their version to suit Old John. When he betrayed them by voting against his own amendment, Warner lost the trust of those Democrats who thought he had honor. Once you lose trust among your peers in the legislature, it is almost impossible to reclaim.

but wasn't this all sort of legislative maneuvering, and so will be forgiven in the collegiality of the Senate?  A collegiality, that  is, more honored by naive Democrats than by crafty Republicans, it seems to me.

It's as if the election in November never happened. Contrast this minuet by the parties with the rough-edged Republican enforcement of up-or-down votes on Iraq just a couple of months ago. Have the Democrats no guts? No legislative cleverness? Or have they been so intimidated by the past media blitz painting them as unpatriotic (not supporting troops, emboldening the terrorists, etc) that they cannot screw their courage to the sticking point, and have developed the habit of caving in to Republican pressure?

Can you convince Mark Warner to run for Senate?

If not.. can you run.. please? =)

I just got through to Warner's Senate office.  There were
lots of busy signals...ya think LOTS of Virginians were calling this morning in reaction to Warner's vote?  I hope, I hope!  When I finally got through I asked the staffer WHY Warner voted against allowing a vote on his own resolution and got the response that it was the DEMOCRATS' fault.  They were refusing to allow debate on all four resolutions so Warner voted against allowing debate on his in solidarity to the Republicans' demand for fair play.  I just might throw up!  We have got to find a strong candidate to run against Warner in '08.  Can Jim Webb arrange to clone himself?

As if they don't know what these resolutions have. As if the debate is actually going to change the minds of anyone. It seems that all what the lengthy debate and this vote is meant to do is to give Republicans extra time to twist the arms of their own people so that they will keep their party discipline.