Is Jim Webb already striking fear into the hearts of the GOP?

By: phriendlyjaime
Published On: 11/13/2006 9:44:13 PM

It looks like he may be...

From Robert Novak:

Robert D. Novak: Gates, Webb are old enemies
By ROBERT D. NOVAK
20 hours, 27 minutes ago

WASHINGTON GÇô One reason for hurrying Senate confirmation of Robert Gates as secretary of defense through the lame-duck session of Congress is to avoid confrontation with an old enemy: James Webb, who will be a Democratic senator from Virginia in the new Congress starting in January.

During President ReaganGÇÖs second term, Gates and Webb clashed as colleagues. Webb as secretary of the Navy objected to plans by Gates, then deputy national security adviser, for U.S. warships to protect oil platforms in the Persian Gulf. The hot-tempered Webb made clear his irritation with the soft-spoken Gates.

Considering his background, Webb is likely to go on the Senate Armed Services Committee. The White House wants to confirm Gates before Webb is sworn in.

WOW. 


But there's more...

Senator-elect Jim Webb was on Larry King on Thursday, the fateful day that George Allen conceded his Senate seat.  That evening, Senator-elect Jim Webb made it very clear that he would indeed like to be able to vote on the next Secretary of Defense for the United States of America.


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Sounds like Senator-elect Jim Webb is already making members of the lame duck Republican Congress nervous.  I knew we were sending a rock-star to Congress.  :)


UPDATE: Here's what John Warner has to say about Senator-elect Jim Webb, from the Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer:

BLITZER: One final question Senator, a lot of the so-called pundits say that Jim Webb didn't really win as much as George Allen lost the election in Virginia with his macaca statement, some of the other blunders. What do you think?

WARNER: Well, I worked with George through much of that campaign, stood by his side, certainly in the last 10 days to two weeks of it. I was always available but that was when he really brought me in. I did my best to see that he was re-elected, a fine man. Jim Webb was actually a Marine Corps aide to me when I was undersecretary, secretary of the navy. So after 35 years we're now two old marine captains, I'm the old one, he's the younger one, are reunited to work on behalf of the men and women of the armed forces.

BLITZER: And people of Virginia as well.

WARNER: Oh yes.

BLITZER: Don't forget about those Virginians. Senator, thanks for coming in.

WARNER: Thank you.

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Comments



Knowledge and experience do strike fear into the adversary. (PM - 11/13/2006 9:56:23 PM)
Did you ever notice how many career politicians don't have experience in the "real" world?

Like George Allen.

When I first saw Jim Webb's resume I was flabbergasted at its strengths.  For George Allen to have criticized him as a mere novelist -- was a pathetic form of character assassination.



good (TurnVirginiaBlue - 11/13/2006 10:45:20 PM)
Webb is going to be awesome and he should be able to vote on this appointment, obviously with his expertise and background.

I do think the GOP fear Webb yet I also think he is going to be great for bi-partisanship because it's pretty obvious to me at least they respect him.



Kudos (mkfox - 11/13/2006 11:58:05 PM)
to Warner for taking the high road during the campaign and not committing the kind of character assassination Wadham's and Co. were doing.


Jim Webb is exactly what corporatists fear most... (Loudoun County Dem - 11/14/2006 10:05:09 AM)
...an intellectual populist with integrity...


Hmm.... (doctormatt06 - 11/14/2006 10:40:32 AM)
Why is it...that that gave me a picture of Jim Webb with little things sticking out the sides of his neck (a la Frankenstein) going:

Jim Webb Smash

Jim Webb DESTROY

JIM WEBB CREATE ECONOMIC FAIRNESS!!!!

and then Howard Dean jumps in a gives a goood BYAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!



You'd better believe it (Kryndis - 11/14/2006 10:51:26 AM)
If he hasn't struck fear in their hearts yet it's only because they haven't been paying attention.

I keep trying to keep my hopes low, just so they don't get dashed as they have many times before when it came to politics.  Every time I see Webb though I get more excited.  I feel like for once I actually honestly have a representative who represents me.  I can't even express how great that feels.



Very good piece from Talking Points Memo (PM - 11/14/2006 12:58:28 PM)
by newly named writer there, David Kurtz:

There is another thing I would point out about the importance of a Democratic-led confirmation hearing on Bob Gates. The point of such a hearing would not be to torpedo his nomination, but rather to put down some markers on Iraq and attempt to define the parameters within which the Administration will operate going forward.

I'm talking about big picture items. What is victory? What is the strategic objective? Are we spread too thin militarily and how do we address that? What will troop rotations look like going forward? What should our force strength be? How much repair and replenishment of materiel is required and what will it cost? What resources do we need to commit in Afghanistan? What are the relative priorities?

I don't have much confidence that those questions will be addressed in GOP-led hearings. The thrust of Republican questioning will be, You're not Don Rumsfeld, right? End of story.

The temptation will be--already is--to dump the Iraq disaster in Rumsfeld's lap and be satisfied that just about anything and anyone will be better than Rumsfeld. First, that ignores the continuing role of the President and Vice President. Second, it seems to me that we are at a crossroads, with many options before us. Simply saying any road is better than the one we just came down is irresponsible. There are real choices to be made at this juncture.

http://www.talkingpo...


Excellent summary... (Loudoun County Dem - 11/14/2006 1:01:05 PM)
...and exactly right.

Senator Webb would be perfectly positioned to raise these questions...



Gates (seveneasypeaces - 11/14/2006 4:02:39 PM)
GREAT MOMENTS IN THE LIFE OF ROBERT GATES
JAMES RIDGWAY, MOTHER JONES -

While Donald Rumsfeld was Ronald Reagan's errand boy to Saddam Hussein in the mid-1980s, Robert Gates, the man named to succeed him as Secretary of Defense, was at the very heart of the American intelligence apparatus, actively planning and carrying out covert operations in Central America and the Middle East.

Gates, a 26-year CIA veteran and the agency's director between 1991 and 1993, has long been accused of undermining competent, unbiased intelligence analysis at the agency during his tenure, opening the way for its role in partisan politics, a reality brought to the fore again as the Bush administration made its flawed and phony case for war with Iraq.

Gates was a high official at the CIA at a time when the U.S. intelligence community experienced one of its most humiliating debacles: the failure to predict the disintegration of the Soviet Union. Instead, under CIA director William Casey the U.S. concocted evidence showing the expansion of Reagan's "evil empire."

On December 14, 1984, in a five page memorandum for then Director of Intelligence Casey, Gates, then serving as deputy director of intelligence, set forth his views: "It is time to talk absolutely straight about Nicaragua," the memo begins. "The Nicaraguan regime is steadily moving toward consolidation of a Marxist-Leninist government, and the establishment of a permanent and well-armed ally of the Soviet Union and Cuba on the mainland of the western hemisphere. Its avowed aim is to spread further revolution in the Americas." Gates goes on to say this is an "unacceptable" course, arguing that the U.S. should do everything "in its power short of invasion to put that regime out.". . .

Nicaragua wasn't the only place Gates wanted to take action. In 1985, sounding very much like one of today's neoconservative hawks, the then head of intelligence analysis at the CIA drafted a plan for a joint
U.S.-Egyptian military operation to invade Libya, overthrow Col. Muamar Ghaddafi, and "redraw the map of North Africa." . . .

According to Robert Parry, a reporter who has closely tracked this period in the CIA's history, during this time the Reagan administration was "pressing the CIA to adopt an analysis that accepted right-wing media reports pinning European terrorism on the Soviets. . . "In 1985, Gates closeted a special team to push through another pre-cooked paper arguing that the KGB was behind the 1981 wounding of Pope John Paul II.

CIA analysts again knew that the charge was bogus, but could not block the paper from leaving CIA.". . .

In his book, "Firewall: The Iran/Contra conspiracy and Cover-Up," Lawrence E. Walsh, the independent counsel in the Iran-Contra investigation, wrote that he was skeptical of Gates' repeated denials of having been aware or involved with the details of the Iran-Contra operations with Oliver North. . . In blunt terms, Walsh thought Gates was a liar. It was only for a lack of evidence that he eventually gave up trying to indict him.

http://www.motherjon...

NY TIMES, 1991 - David Boren, the [Senate Intelligence] committee chairman, commends Mr. Gates for forthrightness. Yet he overlooks occasions when Mr. Gates helped skew intelligence assessments and was demonstrably blind to illegality. The illegality concerns the Iran-contra scandal. Mr. Gates contends he was 'out of the loop' on decisions about what to tell Congress. And he defends his professed ignorance on grounds of deniability--that he was shielding the C.I.A. from involvement. These contentions defy belief.

The testimony of other puts Mr. Gates, on at least two occasions, very much in the loop. He supervised preparation of Director William Casey's deceitful testimony to Congress about the scandal. And one C.I.A.
analyst, Charles Allen, says he informed Mr. Gates, before it came to light, of three unforgettable details: Oliver North's involvement, the markup of prices of arms sold surreptitiously to Iran, and diversion of the proceeds into a fund for covert operations. In a telling lapse of his reputedly formidable memory, Mr. Gates could not recall the details when Congress asked two months later.

The second criterion concerns intelligence estimates. Incorrect forecasting should not be disqualifying; estimates can be wrong for the right reasons of political expediency, that's `cooking the books.'

The hearings have documented at least three cases of such slanting: a May 1985 estimate on Iran, estimates of Soviet influence in the third world, and assessments of Soviet complicity in the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II. . .

It is more reasonable to think the agency would be better off with a director unbound by William Casey's dark legacy--the conviction that the agency knows best, a barely concealed contempt for Congress and a belief that anything goes including evading the law. Reshaping the agency wisely depends on casting off the legacy.

Thomas Polgar, a C.I.A. veteran, urged the committee to consider the message that confirmation would send. Would officials wonder whether it was wise for outspoken witnesses to risk their careers by testifying?
Would they say to themselves, `Serve faithfully the boss of the moment; never mind integrity? Feel free to mislead the Senate--senators forget easily?  By voting no, senators will vote to remember.

http://www.fas.org/i...



Webb makes it very clear (Different Drum - 11/14/2006 4:28:33 PM)
He says he wants the opportunity to sit on the hearings not once, but twice.  You know, just to add the exclamation point. 

Yeah, they're worried.  Chickenhawks.



People with last name of Webb on a roll--Brandon Webb wins Cy Young Award (PM - 11/14/2006 5:36:50 PM)
Webb wins NL Cy Young Award

By MIKE FITZPATRICK, AP Baseball Writer
November 14, 2006

AP - Nov 14, 2:22 pm EST

NEW YORK (AP) -- Brandon Webb of the Arizona Diamondbacks won a wide-open race for the NL Cy Young Award, beating out San Diego closer Trevor Hoffman on Tuesday. ***

Striking fear in the hearts of NL batters.
 



"Soft-spoken" Robert Gates? (Catzmaw - 11/14/2006 6:51:35 PM)
Makes Webb sound like a bully.  All I know is what I've heard from people who worked in the CIA during Gates's time (don't want to get specific here, but these are people who were there), and they all complained that he was a total SOB to subordinates and was completely obsessed with the Soviets.  No wonder Webb fought with him. I want to see a re-match. 


Check out this diverse crew - (Kathy Gerber - 11/14/2006 8:48:21 PM)
http://www.parkerdri...

It says he has a doctorate in Russian and Soviet history from Georgetown University.

One strange thing is that Russian oil guy Simon Kukes was on the board at Parker Drilling and doesn't show up there now.  Wonder what happened...

And there's a Halliburton link from 2001 with Kukes:

TNK President Simon Kukes, an American citizen born in Russia who formerly worked for Amoco and Phillips Petroleum, sees Western knowhow as crucial to the company's future. Houston-based Halliburton is advising on drilling strategy at TNK's big Samotlor field in Western Siberia, now producing some 400,000 barrels per day -- about half of the company's total production.

TNK is also working with Texaco to produce lubricants at TNK's Ryazan refinery, as well as developing Texaco Star Mart convenience stories around Mosow. Indeed, TNK's long-term goal is to sell a large piece of the company, possibly all of it, to a major Western oil company. "We need to give control to the West," Kukes declared in a May 28 interview with BusinessWeek. And for a company that wants it all, TNK is certainly acting that way.

And there's this.

Does anyone have a handle on Gates' business ties?  This sounds like more of the same - but worse.



People-powered Senators will kick ass and take names (msnook - 11/15/2006 12:16:30 AM)
Jim Webb and Jon Tester got elected because of people like us, not because of corporate contributions and special interests. They're going to raise hell in the senate in the next few years, and I can't wait!