What Next for Raising Kaine?

By: Lowell
Published On: 11/12/2006 7:40:54 AM

We've had a good run the past two years.  I'm proud of our role in helping to elect Tim Kaine as Governor, in drafting James Webb, and in fighting for Jim Webb's election to the U.S. Senate.  I'm particularly proud that we built Raising Kaine into a true community blog, with the help of the superb software known as SoapBlox.  The question is, now what?  Should RK stay focused on Virginia in 2007?  Is that interesting enough for most readers (and writers)?  Should RK morph into a national blog?  Should it declare victory and go home?  Should it continue under new management?  What do you, the readers and contributors, think?

Thanks.

[UPDATE:  Just to focus the discussion a bit differently, let me throw something out here.  Up until now, RK has essentially been a "free good," in the sense that it "is available in as great a quantity as desired with zero opportunity cost to society."  Of course, just because a good is made available at zero price, it is not necessarily a free good in a broader sense.  That's because there IS a price - e.g., the time and energy to keep something like this going at a high quality level, the opportunity costs of lost leisure time, etc. - but that price simply isn't visible to most people.  For that reason, a "free good" (e.g, the RK blog) APPEARS to come at no cost, but that's highly deceptive.

All this reminds me of the product I used to work on in the federal government, the Country Analysis Briefs.  For many years, this was the most popular product, in terms of internet "visits," coming out of the Energy Information Administration (EIA).  And it was totally free from the reader's point of view (of course, their tax dollars were being used to produce the reports, but there was no other user fee involved).  Not surprisingly, when we surveyed our customers and asked them for their feedback, they all said they LOVED the Country Analysis Briefs, and only wished there were MORE of them, containing MORE detail on their particular area of interest, and produced MORE frequently.  In sum, people wanted more, more and MORE for the same low low price of Z-E-R-O.  But the bottom line is that Congress consistently cut funding to our agency during the 1990s and early 2000s, and the Country Analysis Briefs were never highily valued within the agency itself.  Meanwhile, the customers who said they loved these things and wanted more more MORE of them apparently didn't lobby their Congressmen - or weren't successful doing so - to increase the budget for international energy analysis and statistics. The end result?  A slow atrophy of the program, and a major opportunity cost to society with regards to what we COULD have done to better inform policymakers and the public about international energy issues.

Anyway, this has been a long and rambling "update;" sorry if it's been too longwinded.  The bottom line is that RK is a "free good," so I'm not surprised that most people seem to feel strongly that we should keep it going.  The more appropriate question, perhaps, is how much people would be willing to PAY to keep it going.  I'm not just talking money, either, but time and effort and dedication (both online and on the ground) as well.  Now, please resume the conversation which I so rudely interrupted! :)]

[UPDATE #2: Just to be clear, since some people seem to delight in purposely misreading every word I write, obviously I'm not asking for any money for myself from my readers. I have never done that, and I never would do that.  It's totally not me.  Generally speaking, I have always thought that the idea of making money from running a state-based blog is laughable and completely unrealistic.  There's simply no "business model" there. The only issue I was raising here was whether people wanted RK to continue, and whether or not they felt the Raising Kaine PAC should have resources in order to fight for Democrats in Virginia, to keep turning this state "blue."  If not, that's fine.  Either way, I'm 99.9% certain to be moving on to other pursuits after the end of the year.  Blogging has been interesting and (sometimes) fun, but my goals - helping Tim Kaine and Jim Webb get elected, to whatever limited extent I could contribute - have been accomplished.  This blogging thing has basically just been a hobby and a distraction the past two years. Now, it's time to do other things in life.]


Comments



What Next? (cycle12 - 11/12/2006 8:28:37 AM)
Excellent question, Lowell; thanks for asking!  Since I was first introduced to "Raising Kaine" in March of this year, I haven't been a frequent contributor but I have certainly become dependent upon this blog as the most consistent and reliable medium through which I receive a large percentage of my information about Virginia and national politics.

Strangely enough, it was via the Roanoke County Democratic Committee's St. Patrick's fundraising party at our home last March - featuring the unintentional but now "legendary" conflict between Harris Miller and Mudcat Saunders - that the scope, importance and universality of RK was brought to my attention.

The morning after our party, I was working in my office when I received a phone call from another circuit court clerk in northern Virginia, kidding me about that incident while quite accurately describing it to me, much to my surprise. 

Puzzled, I asked him how he knew so much about what I thought had been an isolated incident at my home the previous day.  This fellow clerk gave me RK's website address, and the rest is history.

Since then, I have become well acquainted with a number of impressive individuals including no less than Jim Webb, his wife, Hong Le, and many of his campaign workers, all of whom have spent many hours here in our home while on the campaign trail in southwestern Virginia.  I give much credit to Raising Kaine for Jim's victory and for introducing me to so many interesting, knowledgeable, motivated people.

Regardless of whether you remain local or go national, please keep Raising Kaine.  Thanks again!

Steve McGraw



Best poolitical blog in Virginia (KathyinBlacksburg - 11/12/2006 1:56:33 PM)
RK is the simply best political blog in Virginia.  Indeed, not not only do many voters depend on it, even various news media quote this site.  The impact of RK goes far beyond those who actually go on this blog in another way.  As Malcom Gladwell illustrates in Tipping Point, "connectors" can expand the its reach.  I think one future action regular bloggers and diarists could take is to develop a strategy for getting the work of this blog to more citizens.

There is a huge distrust of blogs, fanned in large part by the so-called MSM.  So, we need to get more folks of kindred spirit logging in.  And get those logging in to spread the details of what we learn here.  It's doable and would really help rapid response in the face of disinformation by the "other side."

Besides an RK party around the time of the swearing-in of Senator-Elect James Webb, I think we should meet once or twice a year in real space, not just cyber space.

But we could also have polling for members and listservs for updating us.  AND, of course, there are those of us who can always use updating our compupter and web skills.  Maybe Kenton and some of the others could teach some of us some webpage techniques we have yet to master!!!



"Should it declare victory and go home?" (phriendlyjaime - 11/12/2006 4:44:33 PM)
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Is that really a choice for us to make, or just something you are thinking about doing?

Because, to be simple and clear, I'll kick your ass HARD if you throw in the towel.  That's all.  HUGE ass-kicking coming your way courtesy of not-so-phriendlyjaime.

You're welcome. :)



Ha, well that settles it. (Lowell - 11/12/2006 4:53:35 PM)
PhriendlyJaime's gonna kick my ass if I don't continue blogging the rest of my life, so what choice do I have?  Ha. :)


Time to go LOCAL (JC - 11/12/2006 8:52:17 AM)
Of course we'll always be interested in and write about national developments, but 2007 will be our first chance to use what we've learned in local elections for the General Assembly.  This has been an area in which the Republicans have dominated due to their mastery of the small scale GOTV needed to win these races.

It's time for us to adapt Howard Dean's "50 State Strategy" into our own "140 District Strategy."  We need to take the fight to the Republicans everywhere: no safe seats this year.



Great Suggestion. (KathyinBlacksburg - 11/12/2006 1:43:03 PM)
Great suggestion, JC.  I don't think we should abandon national issues.  The fact is that they often draw our atention (and passion) for politics.  But this next year could  well enable us to bring the poer of RK to the General Assembly.  We can all introduce our current Democratic delegates to the rest of Virginia.  (We have both an outstanding delegate and Senator here in Montgomery County (Stare Sen John Edwards and Del. Jim Shuler).

I really appreciated learning of the Congressional races.  Having said that, the only thing I wonder about is whether or not there should be a sector dedicated to House and Senate races.  There are so many districts!  It could get unwieldy.
 



YES. (phriendlyjaime - 11/12/2006 4:45:18 PM)
There are many more areas in VA that need some blue love.

Let's start Monday.



General Assembly 2007 is my vote.... (ericy - 11/12/2006 9:08:05 AM)

It seems to me that we ought to remain focussed on Virginia politics, as that is an important niche that we have already carved out for ourselves.

There are already many blogs covering the national scene. We can certainly talk about national issues if and when we wish. 



I agree... (FredFred - 11/12/2006 3:20:23 PM)
Just like we needed to try to take out George Allen to keep him from running for President, and wound Tom Davis to make it harder for him to run for Senate, don't think for a minute that Jeanmarie Devolites's goal isn't to take her hubby's Congressional seat as soon as possible.  We need to run a strong campaign against her for State Senate (Calling Chap Petersen???)

-Fred



I've come to rely on this, and very much enjoy the writing (Doug Garnett-Deakin - 11/12/2006 9:31:23 AM)
I would like to learn more about the house and senate in the state. I am completely clueless as to their working, the battles, the candidates and the issues voted upon.

I would love to see policy discussion- research and debate on the bills that are drafted and who votes how as we go along. This would be informative and interesting, and I love the idea of a 140 seat strategy where we get people so interested in what is going on good qualified people might read up on the policy and their current reps and say- hey, I could do a better job of that.

Plus, you want this to be around for the 2008 national races- will Warner retire? If not, will he have real competition, given Webb's win? Will there be a serious netroots nomination for President coming out of Virginia, or someplace nearby?



Stay the course and improve it (Gordie - 11/12/2006 9:45:57 AM)
For once the "Stay the course" is a proper term for Virginia Politics. Of course we Virginians have to improve ourselves, so we must get better.

In this neck of the woods the word has to get to us faster then the once a week Nelson County Times or the Charlotteville Daily Progress and the Lynchburg News and Advance. All Media General newspapers who are changing their letter to the editor policy after this election. We have done so well with letters to the editor they are trying to kill our voice. I for one am for boycotting, but that is a different story.

Yesterday, Mark , Kathy and I had a little social and I asked the same quest Lowell did. They both assumed RK had done such a great job that it would continue for years. And I assumed '07 would be the next step. Some how we need to organize a Virginia PAC to support ever candidate who runs next year. As of now, I know of 2 challengers stepping up to the plate. Could one of RK's goals be to find a candidate to challenge every Republican seat in VA. Isn't it Virginia's "Time For A Change" campaign, time to start. I will be rested and ready to start running January 2, 2007. In the mean time silently working for a new state legislature.



You left too early :) (Kathy Gerber - 11/12/2006 11:07:39 AM)
Nelson rules. Check out this video from Don Wells:
http://raisingkaine....

Three questions at Miller's, and one of them from Nelson chair, Janet Hunter, and another from you, Gordon.  You may want to contact Don to get a copy.



Random thoughts (kestrel9000 - 11/12/2006 9:49:23 AM)
First off, I live here, but I'm not FROM here. I started in California, spent three years in Ohio, three in Vermont, and have been in Virginia for about 17 months. (Mudcat told me I did the Scots-Irish migration in reverse. Since I'm half Scottish and half Mexican, I found this particularly funny.)
I live in Rockingham County, which ain't exactly the Blue North. The newspaper here is HORRIFYING. Checking it before I moved here darn near pushed me into taking a lower-paying job I was offered in Vermont, but I couldn't bring myself to leave the company I've been with since May of '02. That's one thing Raising Kaine could certainly serve as: a watchdog on the editorial pages, because  the "Do Not Read", as we call this excreable rag, cannot possibly be the only such newspaper in the state. If we are to repeat and amplify Democratic successes in '08, and build on the momentum we've gained, messages such as this:

must be responded to and shot down. At every opportunity.
I was LIVID for DAYS over that cartoon, and I have no doubt there will be more like it.
We need to keep spraying the blue paint. What I see is that this is going to mean a lot of counterspin and anti-meme, as well as advancing the positive Democratic message. That's just life as a Democrat in Virginia.
I've served notice repeatedly on my coworkers that I won't tolerate that kind of crap. Conversations have occasionally stopped when I've entered a room.
That's one possible function of Raising Kaine between now and the time the gyros are spun full up for '08: responding to Republican propaganda.
I'll help..........:)


Wow (ESB - 11/12/2006 12:40:31 PM)
I never thought I'd find a newspaper worse than the Times-Dispatch.


What's Next? (Macduff - 11/12/2006 10:47:23 AM)
Keep Raising Kaine going with Virginia as its primary focus.  It's hard to get comparable information and exchanges of ideas about Virginia politics from other sources.  During the course of the campaign this year, I came to looking at Raising Kaine at least daily.  Taking Howard Dean's 40-state strategy to the counties of Virginia is an excellent suggestion by another commentator.  It is a worthy goal that will provide plenty of grist for the blogging mill. 
Obviously, national issues will be a part of any political blogosphere, even one that has a Virginai focus.  That's fine.  It will add to the entertainment value and help shape political thinking inside Virginia.  Despite some of George Allen's remarks, Virginia really is part of the larger United States.
Keep it up.


Correction (Macduff - 11/12/2006 10:49:12 AM)
Ahem.  That's Howard Dean' 50-state strategy.  Damn those clumsy fingers.


Virginia needs the focus (vadem - 11/12/2006 11:21:27 AM)
With the Kaine win, Virginia got a lot of buzz last year.  We actually held a blue seat and had elected Dems two cycles in a row.  But Virginia was seen largely as still pretty red.  The election of Jim Webb, and the spotlight focused on Virginia this past week as the "decider" in the Senate takeover, has given us something to build on. 

Now is the time to seize this opportunity and continue to build in the state, both on the General Assembly level and on our congressional representatives level.  The huge disappointment was that we failed to take back a single district even while states like Indiana were doing so! 

I'd also like to see more focus on the activity and direction that the state party is taking.  I feel they have been strangely quiet over the past year and I haven't seen their influence or involvement.  Not saying they haven't been active, just that I hadn't seen the activity.  No matter what anyone thinks of the national or state Democratic Parties, we need to work with them and from within to build and strengthen.  A strong and organized party can do some amazing things.



I have to agree totally with the consensus so far.... (Jim Southworth - 11/12/2006 11:26:17 AM)
The Virginia Senate campaign by itself a national race, still was almost lost in the shear volumn of sites like DailyKos etc. You have the credibility, You have the knowledge of who the real players are, You have the key participants who bring the statewide perspective, and most of WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE YOUSE GUYS.... if you need the vacation and a break, take it and we will all miss you, but we will keep the ship on course.

The next two elections are even more important than what has been started together here the last two years.... From what I have been told by the experts, those local and statewide offices elected in 2007 will have a lot of input into what happens during the next re-districting after the 2010 census and those elected in 2008 even more so....

RK has been the voice of sane solid information which typically has allowed all but the ugly troll style exchanges which EVERYBODY can do without. There are other sites for them to practice their art....

If this is a matter of money, lets do a real fundraiser for just RK.... I gotta believe the campaigns you have helped and those that expect to need you may all be willing to chip in.  I know myself and other participants will be there to at least some degree to help as well.

If this is a matter of issues such as the Byrne exchange if the last couple days, as irritating both ways as it was, it laid on the table something that had to said, rebutted, and buried NOW before it festers further. Personally I support the facts that Larry laid out and I say that as one who has contributed my time as much as most.  Thats not to say that we don't have some more rough edges to blunt and polish before next election season.

The blend of the best technology, the best overall writers/contributors, the friendships, and most of all the general TRUST in this site have proven to be an awesome vehicle against the general BS that has become the norm in politics. As much as I'm sure the A-Team would argue this, generally the topics and perspectives presented here on RK have been balanced.... maybe slanted to the Dems, but none the less always displaying the VALID issues the other side has to express as well.

In my personal opinion, there would be a great loss and massive hole to fill in the "Progressive Moderate Intelligent" dialog especially for Virginia centris subjects and campaigns. Lowell, Josh, Eric and the other initial founders of RK.... THANKYOU for me and especially my family all of whom are tax paying residents of this beautiful state. You Have Certainly Made A Difference and not many people can say that as much as you can.  That is not to take away from the efforts or continuous support by the other activists, but you broke new ground and channeled this new technology with amazing expertise. WE NEED RK !! and it really isn't just an addiction :)

Jim Southworth
Centreville Virginia.....



As another Centreville resident...... (Ambivalent Mumblings - 11/12/2006 3:15:31 PM)
.....I have to agree. This is one of the first blogs I became familiar with once I joined the blogosphere back in June. So many people like the format of Daily Kos, but this blog is unique in the fact that it's a community blog that focuses on Virginia. I say keep it that way. While it's good to stay up to date on national issues, I believe Virginians would benefit more from having a place where they can see how Virginia in particular fits into the national political scene.

Plus, focusing on Virginia could provide bloggers with a forum that allows them to write about certain candidates for the House of Delegates or the State Senate. Although these discussions could obviously take place on individual blogs and the Daily Kos, I believe they would receive much more attention on a site such as RK. That obviously would help spread the word about the Democratic candidates in Virginia.



Please keep Raising Kaine going ! (beachydem - 11/12/2006 11:26:35 AM)
It's my must go place for Virginia Politics, especially your very comphrehensive Virginia Blogroll.

Plus Jim and Tim need our support more than ever right now, especially in the Virginia Assembly!  Let's go 2007!!!



My two cents (Quizzical - 11/12/2006 11:32:30 AM)
I would suggest that RK say primarily focused on Virginia in 2007, and tie into national issues by featuring what the Virginia Congressional delegation is doing.  I have the feeling that the latter is going to be very interesting.

I think the combination of a blog with steaming video is very effective, and that it offers a way to counteract "sound bite" politics.

I think it would be a big mistake to shut the blog down. 



Virginia Focus, Continue, Continue (PM - 11/12/2006 11:32:48 AM)
There are good national blogs -- RK does not need to duplicate them.

We need to work on making Virginia permanently blue.  The House of Delegate elections are every two years, and we need to get rid of the GOP legislators who do not care about real problems like transportation, education, etc., and instead promote issues of divisiveness.  We need to defeat the truly bad guys like Lingamfelter, Marshall, Cuccinelli, etc.

And there are always other issues that come up -- growth is an ongoing one.  Metrorail expansion is another.

We can bring new ideas to the table.  I have been to several transportation fora (how 'bout that fancy word?) and people in the audience ask -- why can't the Vienna Metro be extended right to Manassas, and beyond, in the I-66 corridor?  I've not yet heard a good response from the transportation gurus.  (I'm just throwing this out as an example -- I have no idea how practical such an extension would be.)

Also, I think this is an intelligent blog -- unlike some others around.  It needs to be maintained.



Separate Idea--Some Kind of Get Together (PM - 11/12/2006 11:33:53 AM)
There are a bunch of commenters I'd like to meet.  Lowell -- any party thoughts?  I am willing to host, at my house in western Fairfax.


And make it on a weekend please! (Kathy Gerber - 11/12/2006 11:42:26 AM)
That way some of can make it.


Weekends... (KathyinBlacksburg - 11/12/2006 2:02:39 PM)
Agree with Kathy.  Weekends are best.  It's a four and a half hour drive each way, in good traffic. 


Kathy (Gordie - 11/12/2006 4:58:39 PM)
Do you want me to drive or do you want to drive.


I want Reen to drive. n/t (Kathy Gerber - 11/12/2006 7:23:21 PM)


And maybe... (Kathy Gerber - 11/12/2006 7:41:03 PM)
we can get Mark and Lisa to come, too.

And with KathyinBlacksburg and kestrel that's quite a few that get rural.  Maybe martha, nell and bubby can come, too.



That would be interesting. (thegools - 11/12/2006 11:44:16 AM)
I second the motion.


I'm in (pitin - 11/12/2006 5:38:47 PM)
just give us a date.


What Next? (MohawkOV1D - 11/12/2006 11:35:27 AM)
We won! - Get back to work.

Virginia State House elections - Get back to work.

Holding those we just elected to their word - Get back to work.

Read what the WaPo said about Jim in the Metro Section today - Get back to work.

Pelosi says Impeachment is "off the table" - Get back to work.

MSM Nattering Noboobs spinning the victory down the drain - Get back to work.

Where better to keep the momentum up and running than here?



Virginia born - Virginia Bred (Gene E. Magruder - 11/12/2006 11:41:47 AM)
Lowell,
I also think that RaisingKaine should continue to be mostly aimed at virginia, however as you know from this year on the blog you were able to squeeze many national stories in as well. The election cycle next year is very important to Tim Kaine and we need to Raise him up with victories within our state, so the name of our blog stays appropriate.

Gene E. Magruder



I don't see a need to change much of anything. (thegools - 11/12/2006 11:42:09 AM)
The topics after all are largely written by readers.  We need only look forward to see what topics we will focus on next.  My guess is that the natural progression will be to focus on 2007(State Senators and Delegates), then 2008 (President, Senate & congress), then 2009 (Governor & delegates)...and so on.
  I would hope that the focus stays predominantly on candidates that Virginians can vote for, and issues that effect Virginians.  In Virginia, there are no other sites that are quite as good as this one for what it does.

  Like I said, there is not much need for deliberate change.



Thegools are right (KathyinBlacksburg - 11/12/2006 2:05:45 PM)
RK shouldn't change.  We could make an effort to include articles on local races.  But overall, I wouldn't change it.  Lowell, Josh, Eric and the other founders, you were and remain awesome.  I understand you must be really exhausted.  But please don't change much on RK.


Focus on Virginia! (Timothy - 11/12/2006 12:05:19 PM)
There are alot of great ideas in this thread.

Its amazing that in the 21st Century, there is still a significant shortage of good newspapers in Virginia, especially in the rural areas. And, the ones that exist are controlled by people who have owned/operated them for decades. Raising Kaine helps fill a vaccuum in Virginia in sharing new ideas, new approaches and progressive ideals.

To me, it seems simple. Focus on the Virginia delegate races in 2007. Adopt Howard Dean's 50 state strategy to every district in Virginia. Use Act Blue as a means to identify and financially support Netroots Virginia delegate candidates. Finally, build on that same approach and the inevitable successes in 2007 to make Virginia go blue in 2008.

In fact, I nominate Raising Kaine's first target - Robert Marshall - the man who drafted Virginia's insidious Marriage Ammendment and for whom the ammendment is named. He has even labelled himself "Virginia's Chief Homophobe". This man represents District 13 - roughly northern Prince William County and southern Loudon County. He was elected about 15 years ago. As we all know, that area has changed dramatically in 15 years. In fact, it is probably the fastest growing region in the country. There is no way that Bob Marshall represents today's values in District 13. Its time for him to go. Raising Kaine can make it happen.



Agree (JPTERP - 11/12/2006 12:11:52 PM)
with many of the sentiments above. 

I think there are already blogs that fill the void on a national level.  But there isn't a comparable substitute for what RK has done (and is doing).  The Virginia-centric focus is what makes this blog valuable.



"Stay the course" (Arturo - 11/12/2006 12:31:40 PM)
That's all I have to say about that.


Keep the focuse on Virginia (ESB - 11/12/2006 12:39:33 PM)
and lets try to pick up some seats in the General Assembly in 2007!


State Races in 2007; Turnout in 2008 (Greg - 11/12/2006 12:50:18 PM)
I agree with the consensus -- there are other national blogs to debate about the Democratic presidential primary contenders, which will be the biggest focus of the national blog discussion over the next year.

RaisingKaine should stay focused on the 2007 legislative races in Virginia. Part of the power of blogs is the ability to leverage support into key races. I, for example, live in Bob Brink's district in North Arlington, which is uber-safe. But if someone got me turned on to a race elsewhere, I might donate, and I might even drive out on election day 2007 to volunteer. RaisingKaine can serve to steer attention onto possible pickups in those races.

In 2008, however, we have a competitive Senate race (assuming John Warner retires as expected), and a presidential race. We learned a lot about driving turnout in 2006 with Jim Webb -- some of it worked well, some not so well. We need to think about using RaisingKaine to discuss what we can improve heading into 2008, and how to build the synergy between the 'Netroots' and the formal apparatus of the Democratic Party of Virginia.



Good Jim Webb Comment on the 2007 Va. Races (bb10 - 11/12/2006 4:36:35 PM)
I agree with Greg and many others who mention the importance of using RK to focus on the 2007 races in Virginia. That's backed up by a quote in an article in today's "Washington Post" (see here):

Despite a desire to be portrayed as independent, Webb plans to become engaged with the state's Democratic Party. He said he plans to start helping Gov. Timothy M. Kaine (D) with his effort to elect more Democrats to the General Assembly next year.

"I want to do what I can to bring people back into the party," Webb said.

I think that we should continue applying all the experience and skills that we have gained in the last several years, and focusing on the 2007 races seems like a great way to do that.



Raising Kaine (Kathy Gerber - 11/12/2006 12:58:12 PM)
I'm going to say this because I don't think everyone is aware of it. Raising Kaine was crucial in this Senate race.  Duh.  And Lowell was a key player because he gave up a good paying job to work on it. 

That said, Lowell is not independently wealthy and frankly, he can't "stay the course" as we've become accustomed to experiencing it.

This is a community blog with a unique culture.  And it is up to us to keep it going by contributing, not just articles and comments, but also with financial contributions.  However small, they add up.

The problem is, Lowell, how do we make a financial contribution to RK so that we can keep this community going?  I don't see an online form anywhere on this site.



I agree with Kathy... (Loudoun County Dem - 11/12/2006 2:00:15 PM)
... We need to make certain that RK is sustainable as an ongoing source. Now that Lowell has built the branded franchise for Virginia Progressive issues (sorry Ben, it's true) we need to be sure that he/we can keep it viable. For everything I get from RK and everyone who contributes I would be willing to pledge a monthly amount to help with costs, it is unreasonable and unfair to expect Lowell to keep paying for our sandbox. With Lowell as the CEO, we could treat RK as a sort of collective in which we share the costs (I know, how Marxist of me).

I strongly feel that RK should keep it's focus on Virginia based issues, there are many established national sites (especially dkos) that have established market share and, unless you are a Microsoft which can impose itself into an established market, one would simply be wasting capital and effort trying to compete there.

For the progressive movement in Virginia, there are tremendous long term benefits to maintaining this community. Part of the lessons we must learn from the right wing machine is to nurture these types of resources rather than recreating them each election cycle.



I'll contribute also (PM - 11/12/2006 4:45:58 PM)


An Editor (Arlington Tom - 11/12/2006 6:45:21 PM)
As you folk consider this it would see logical to have a paid "Editor"/ "Executive Director" as part of the costs of keeping this going.


2008 Senate (EmperorHadrian - 11/12/2006 1:06:42 PM)
Raising Kaine still has to get the democrats to take John Warner's seat. He will be 81 in 2008, and may retire. Mark Warner may be able to beat John Warner (he came close in 1996). If John Warner retires, Mark Warner will have no problem winning that seat. Plus we need to keep the governorship in 2009, so that a democratic governor can help make the restricting map more democratic in 2010.


Definitely local (uvadem6213 - 11/12/2006 1:29:03 PM)
There is simply no other place for me to get Virginia political information.  I can't hold my breath long enough to read the RTD, and besides, most newspapers focus far too little on local politics anyway. 

The only downside is that you may lose some visitors who aren't interested in local issues.  Maybe you could balance this out by not focusing exclusively on local races, but giving some time to national issues, or Virginia issues that could be national.

Making it solely national would just clog up the tubes that are the internet.



Keep Raising Kaine focused on VA politics (jatolleris - 11/12/2006 1:44:37 PM)
I believe Raising Kaine should continue next year, more focused on Virginia politics where we have a crucial General Assembly election in 2007.  Right now, we have a General Assembly dominated by Republicans who REFUSE to allow the least bit of consideration of raising any revenue necessary to relieve the soon-to-be 24/7 traffic gridlock that would shut down Northern Virginia and possibly other sections of urban Virginia, so we need RK to tell us about the stakes involved in next year's election.  John


Definitely... (doctormatt06 - 11/12/2006 1:45:20 PM)
We need to focus on 2007...let's win back the senate in 2007!!!!


I agree with all of the votes for a Virginia focus. (oortdust - 11/12/2006 2:04:30 PM)
I am one of the co-hosts for Drinking Liberally Alexandria, http://alexandria.dr...

One of the main points we have discussed is that for us in Northern Virginia, we have virtually no idea of what is happening at the state level.  All we ever hear about are the national issues.

We plan on educating ourselves about what happens within the legislature. We want to have a blue Virginia.  Raising Kaine seems like a great resource for helping that goal. I've turned to it daily throughout the Webb campaign, and would hate to see it go away.



Change the Course (Admiral - 11/12/2006 2:09:17 PM)
I think an important step for Raising Kaine would be to partially refocus on advocacy.  We can win as many elections as we want, but if we don't pass progressive legislation, what's the point?  We can use Raising Kaine as both a means to spread awareness of legislation, but also to push/pressure representatives that are on the fence or hostile to progressive legislation, and to very losely coordinate letter to the editor campaigns.

The bottom line is that if Democrats in Congress don't change the course in Washington in the next two years, we won't do so well in 2008.  So let's not let that happen.



Lowell, (RenaRF - 11/12/2006 2:09:31 PM)
I think we need to be focused on VA politics NOW.

1. Let's address the state-level elections for next year.
2. Let's look at a comprehensive plan for recruiting Mark Warner to run for Senate in 08.  This is going to require a LOT of work.  I am actively contacting the owners of ActBlue pages that raised $$ for Webb and asking them to break down dollar amount by STATE received for Jim Webb.  I want to fuse the idea of Dean's 50-state strategy, the traditional party infrastructure, and the support of the activist Netroots to build a compelling case.  We should absolutely be focused on this and do it soon.

Imo.



My ActBlue Page (pitin - 11/12/2006 2:55:42 PM)
I run the Actblue Page for the Fairfax County Young Democrats, here is our break down for Webb.

NY - $15 - 1 donor
VA - $35 - 3 donors
NJ - $35.02 - 2 donors (both Kos donors from a diary)

-Nate



Keep Raising Kaine Local (Rebecca - 11/12/2006 2:14:11 PM)
We've got plenty of work to do. Webb won by a very slim margin. We need to wonder why it wasn't larger. We need a statewide strategy to turn Virginia Blue. We can't and shouldn't keep depending on getting more people out to vote in Northern Virginia to counter the rest of the state. We need to start turning the rest of the state blue.

I suggest Raising Kaine focus more on races like those for the House and local delegate races. RK tends to focus on the big races and I think it needs to take a broader statewide focus.



Southern progressivism (willr - 11/12/2006 2:19:34 PM)
RK is a great blog, and it's been great place to talk about rural southern progressive values.  Jim Webb, Tim Kaine, and Mark Warner have shown that economic populism and political pragmatism can be keys for Democratic victory in the South.  If not remaining an exclusively VA blog, I think RK should continue to be a voice for southern progressive ideas--because it's these ideas that can lead to a lasting Democratic majority.

Will Reisinger



Stay Local (Rick O'Dell - 11/12/2006 2:22:19 PM)
The success of Raising Kaine (RK) is undeniable.  In my view, much of its success flows from the statewide exchange of ideas on national issues.  That being the case, RK is uniquely Virginian both in perspective and in philosophy.  My vote, don't seek to go national -- let the national blogs seek to emulate what is so good about RK.
 


Raising America (relawson - 11/12/2006 2:25:18 PM)
This blog is one of a kind and should remain as is.  I would suggest creating new blogs.  Everyone could contribute to RaisingAmerica and democracy (ie voting for diaries) could determine which are featured/promoted.

For example...

RaisingAmerica
RaisingAlaska
RaisingAlabama
Raising...

Perhaps a blog for each state is a bit aggressive - maybe not.  I'd like to be involved with a RaisingFlorida blog.  But definately a national blog would be great. 

The progressive movement is rather new.  I would like to see bloggers define what this movement really is - as bloggers are a better representation of America than the parties themselves are.  Many media outlets are defining us as left-wing radicals when in fact I believe we are more moderate.  Unless I am the one confused about what it means to be a progressive...



Follow our hero -- 2007 VA Delegates election (Don Wells - 11/12/2006 2:49:06 PM)
Jim Webb has told us that he will help Tim Kaine in the 2007 VA Delegates and Senators election.  Raising Kaine should follow Jim into this battle, with the goal of breaking the taxation deadlock in the House of Delegates.  Raising Kaine is already the premier blog for VA politics, and it should keep that focus, and strengthen it.
-Don (Charlottesville)


Keep going (pitin - 11/12/2006 2:50:16 PM)
I would suggest, keep going.

Let me start by saying I apologize to all other commentators, I have not read your comments, I'm currently working with some current and former campaign contacts to create a new PAC Next Generation Democrats, details coming soon we hope to file with the FEC within a few days.

But, my instinctive response is to say, keep going at the current trajectory.  Keep growing, and keep focused on Virginia.

There is no greater resource of information for Virginia Progressive/Democratic politics.

Perhaps add some new front pagers each with a specialization, but besides that RK is exactly what I think of when I think of a perfect blog.

Actually, I would like "tags" if soapblox allows it.



OK (pitin - 11/12/2006 3:01:30 PM)
I just took the time to go read all the other comments, glad to hear I'm not the only one that feels this way.


From outside VA (TurnVirginiaBlue - 11/12/2006 3:01:55 PM)
Ya all have made me want to move to VA btw, but I have to
agree to keep it local with "cross over" posting to the national blogs.

The reason is, I knew I could find out everything that was going on in the Webb campaign by coming to this site.

I think we need more regional blogs out there because it creates a strong community to actually affect change within a state/district.

But, there are national issues that affect states, so hopefully ya all will continue to use the cross posting diary technique.



Raising the future (Kindler - 11/12/2006 4:46:32 PM)
I hate to sound like a dittohead, but I strongly agree with 99% of what's been said here.  Raising Kaine is simply better than any other blog I've seen, whether local, national, intergalactic, whatever.  It cleans up in terms of the quality of the writing and the research, its depth, accuracy, quick response, effectiveness, and community spirit.

In terms of the last point, I give Lowell a lot of credit for the way in which he has opened the front page up to a wide variety of contributors, unlike many other blogs.  This has helped us create a real team with a lot of people involved and invested -- a real democracy at the grass-roots level.

Absolutely RK should continue, primarily focused on Virginia.  With some real successes under our belts, we do need to think about how to build our community beyond the blog itself -- joining and influencing local Democratic committees, honing and employing a strong e-mail list, to make our voice heard; and becoming financially sustainable, so that Lowell doesn't have to sell pencils on the street.

I too would be delighted to host a party at my house to bring the RK community together to start building a face-to-face community to complement what we've been able to do on-line.



Follow VA General Assembly and the state elections (Terry - 11/12/2006 5:04:10 PM)
One of the best things about Raising Kaine is the research and knowledge base. George Allen and other candidates could no longer get away with making false statements because RK was right there to refute them with the facts.

In my many years as a advocate for affordable housing, minimum wage and other social justice issues before Virginia's General Assembly,I think the most frustrating part is watching these legislators lie like crazy and never get challenged.

It would not be easy..what many people do not realize is how fast legislation gets passed in Virginia..the Legislature is a very short session (I believe it is six weeks this year). That means that things move VERY fast unlike Capitol Hill. One particulary egregious new rule last year allowed subcommittees to kill a bill with no recorded vote. Citizens have no idea why a bill was killed or as it is called in Richmond "Passed By Indefinitely (PBI)".

Governor Tim Kaine has been a longtime advocate of more open state government and has been a proponent of televising the General Assembly session. The Republicans always fight against these measure because they want to continue to operate largely in the shadows.

RK could be a very valuable public service to all of us but make no mistake it would be a hard job.

That would be my recommendation for January and February. After the session ends then RK can move on to all of the local elections and hopefully all of us will be more informed about the issues.

Lowell, Josh and all of you..thanks for doing a great job to  help get our new Senator, Jim Webb elected!



Please Keep Going (Barbara - 11/12/2006 5:09:45 PM)
I'll add my voice to others who want to focus on the General Assembly in 2007.  Someone started a diary on Friday about knocking off Robert Marshall next year, which got me really excited.  And I want to add Scott Lingamfelter to the list.  2008 would be even more exciting.

Don't stop now.



Keep up the good work. (rogersword - 11/12/2006 5:43:33 PM)
I have read the blog every day here in my home county of Russell in SW Va and have believed that Jim Webb would win despite the battle from locals who felt he was not a
"pure democrat". I  hope you will continue your efforts and we can look at the General Assembly over the next few months.  I know it is a lot of work, but for one, I appreciate your efforts and beliefs.
Roger Sword


VA Gen. Asembly 2007 and forward (hereinva - 11/12/2006 5:46:37 PM)
Hope RK keeps focus on VA...and serve as an example to other regions in need of a Dem booster shot.

Looking ahead to VA races in 2007 seems there is plenty of opportunity for RK to keep the fires burning bright. Lets not forget that many national organizations push agendas at the state level..and certain ones have the ear of the house speaker. Just waiting for a VA TABOR bill, immigration bill, or related "conservative" bills to bolster their VA base for 2007.

There were also issues raised during this election cycle that deserve grass-roots follow-up; electronic voting machines vs verifiable voting..etc.

I say...RK keep it VA !



Per your update (pitin - 11/12/2006 5:49:32 PM)
I'd be willing to help out in any way you need.

Let me know.

Also, as I said in my previous comment upthread, I recommend adding more front pagers, but with each with specific duties, allowing for a separation of labor.  For example, writer A does Senate 1-10, writer B 11-20, etc... Allowing you (Lowell) to do general analysis and write whatever is on your mind, while still keeping all the bases covered.

-Nate



Keep it Virginia focused (Catzmaw - 11/12/2006 5:56:58 PM)
This is the blog I read every single day of the campaign.  I actually spent very little time looking at the Webb blog.  This one's where the action is, and with people like Marshall and Albo coming up for re-election next year, a Senate race coming up in only two years, and other campaigns, we could use this great resource.  Wouldn't it be nice to have two Democratic Senators from Virginia?


The Point (CommonSense - 11/12/2006 5:59:52 PM)
While very new to posting here, I have been a reader from the beginning. I too have come to enjoy, no make that depend, on the pages here for something I can get nowhere else.

All responders to this initial post echo my strong sentiments about keeping RK as "the" definitive Virginia blog.

The point that occurs to me however is what are WE willing to do to keep it going? It is my understanding that Lowell quit his job (longsuffering and VERY supportive wife, no doubt) and took on this blog and fight full time.  That means no income.
Except for a couple of posts on this subject, no one has addressed this matter head-on.

Something this great, this complex, this time-consuming, this vital does not run on air. Yes, all posts are an important part. Without the participants, without the debates and comments and "mini-wars" it would quickly curl up and die. Nobody would (forgive me Lowell) want to just read what Lowell thinks and says.....

The mechanics of this thing are beyond me. I admit that. I simply haven't a clue.

So how do we preserve this very necessary outpost of sanity in a country that approached the brink of doom?  It is long road back.  We have taken the first steps, but there is much to do.  We need RK to help us do it.

We have helped to elect a Senator. We ought to be able to figure out how to keep this going without sacrificing Lowell to the poorhouse.

Ideas?



One template for a political blog (Quizzical - 11/12/2006 7:13:37 PM)
Here's an interesting profile of the founder of Daily Kos, a blog which RK resembles in many respects:
http://www.washingto...

Looks like RK was getting 80,000 visits a month a year ago, and went to ten times that just before the election.
I'm no expert, but that seems to me to be a significant amount. 



RK's visits aren't bad for a state blog (Lowell - 11/12/2006 7:26:32 PM)
But they're not even close to Daily Kos level (700,000-800,000 visits per day).


Update Response/"Century Club"? (cycle12 - 11/12/2006 6:01:53 PM)
Lowell:  Briefly (this time), I believe RK should stay primarily Virginia-focused.  I will be glad to help with monetary, news, text and video contributions.

For financial starters, I'd like to initiate a "Century Club" of annual minimum $100 contributors to RK and see where that takes us in regard to a potential budget, etc.

To where/whom may I send my check?  Thanks!

Steve McGraw

 



Good idea. I'm in. n/t (Kathy Gerber - 11/12/2006 7:24:13 PM)


Excellent idea, Steve! (Susan Mariner - 11/12/2006 7:35:53 PM)
I love this idea. Lowell can you give us information on how we could join a "Century Club" for RK?

I think that we all recognize how important RK has now become to Virginia politics.  What RK provides is amazing.  It's an outstanding educational tool. It provides the capability for rapid response in elections. It is a place to share ideas and get support for volunteer activities.  I can think of a diary full of reasons why RK should be supported in whatever ways its visitors are able.

Sign me up as a charter member of the "Century Club." 



Thanks, Susan . . . (cycle12 - 11/14/2006 5:48:06 AM)
Your enthusiasm and support are contagious.  I really enjoyed meeting you and all the others during breakfast on that calm Wednesday morning at the Sheraton Premiere after a raucously successful Tuesday night Jim Webb election victory.  I feel certain that most of us will cross paths many times in the future.  Thanks again!

Steve McGraw



I'm in... (Loudoun County Dem - 11/12/2006 7:39:20 PM)
...It's a bargain...


I'm in and I'll raise the ante (jlmccreery - 11/12/2006 9:22:23 PM)
Steve's century club is a great idea. But think about it. A hundred bucks a year is less than $2.00 a week. That's less than a gallon of gas, a Happy Meal, or a Starbucks latte these days. It's only 10% of the  $20  that my Dad used to drop in his church offering plate EVERY WEEK.

So I'm in for $50 a month, and if I find someone to match it, I will raise that to $100.

If that sounds too rich for your blood, think of it this way. You don't have to do what I'll do and take it out of my own pocket. Any halfway respectable activist should be able to sweet talk a half-dozen friends into kicking in for a joint contribution, throw a house party or hold a bake sale.

Whatever you do, at whatever level, please do get on board and keep Raising Kaine alive and thriving. This Virginian Democrat Abroad needs the unique connection to his home state politics that only Raising Kaine (not Raw Story, Huffington Post, dailyKos, MyDD, etc., etc.) provides.

John McCreery
Yokohama, Japan



"Century Club" - Address, Please (cycle12 - 11/12/2006 9:39:51 PM)
Thanks, Kathy, Susan, LCD, Barbara et al.  Agreed, John.  Membership in my proposed "Century Club" would require a minimum annual donation of $100 to Raising Kaine, and I will most likely conribute more than that, too. 

However, in order to be as inclusive as possible, let's leave the minimum at $100 and those who wish to contribute more can do so, thus becoming annual double or triple, etc. Century Club members as the year progresses.

Lowell:  The address, please?

Thanks again, everyone!

Steve McGraw



Lowell, if you are comfortable giving us numbers... (Loudoun County Dem - 11/12/2006 6:03:52 PM)
...what do you estimate are the monthly costs involved in maintaining RK? Once we have an idea what is involved it would be time for a virtual pledge drive. If it is $500.00 (I really have no idea) and we can get 20 RK'ers to pledge $25.00 a month we could cover it. I would be willing to set up a repeating paypal payment to you if it will help (were I was wealthy enough I would cover it completely myself and pay you to run it but random riches have thus far eluded me).


Great Job, Please Keep it Up, (and raising money ain't bad either) (Arlington Tom - 11/12/2006 6:18:58 PM)
This has been a great find for me, and I very much hope you keep it going. Not only has the front page been very well done - timely, newsworthy, well written, it's been fun to read. The same goes for the community comments- In my opinion much better than other blogs- especially the national ones. Folks here are seldom shrill, and most always thoughtful and realistic.  Lowell and team,  we need this in Virginia. We are on the cusp of a becoming a solid "swing state" and it would be great to secure that future through (at least) 2008. Without your efforts, I fear we in the middle and on the left retreat to being but  spectators.

Raising money for RK as well as worthy candidates and committees would be a logical extension. I would be glad to support you ($), but personally would not want to any of this great content behind a subscriber wall.

Once again, many thanks for much hard work and your leadership.

Tom



What next? (Quizzical - 11/12/2006 6:26:25 PM)
I see that there is a "Raising Kane PAC" that funds the blog, and there may be legal restrictions involved. 

But having said that, why don't you put in Google ads, put in a tip jar or the like, and put in a way to subscribe to the site like Daily Kos does (i.e., if you subscribe you can turn off the ads), and see what happens?  Maybe Blogads is not the way to go. 

 



We had a donate button for a long time (Lowell - 11/12/2006 7:04:41 PM)
but raised almost no money.  My understanding is that Google ads are problematic, since you kind of have to take what they give you (maybe not "blue"-friendly). 


Well, put the button back! (Kathy Gerber - 11/12/2006 7:45:37 PM)
While we can't support you in the style to which you were previously accustomed, we can help out.


Maybe that's the simple, best answer for now --put the button back (PM - 11/12/2006 9:29:38 PM)
Great idea, Kathy, as usual


I may be wrong about Blogads (Quizzical - 11/12/2006 9:16:50 PM)
as Blogads seems to be what appear on other political blogs, like Daily Kos and Eschaton. 

I'm no expert, but it seems to me that the traffic on the site, while not at Daily Kos levels, should be enough volume to interest advertisers.

So you shouldn't give up on that now.  Perhaps RK could start a series of diaries about newly published books on politics and government (and scandals!) by progressive authors, and that would attract advertising from publishers. I guess if you want to attract advertising on a blog, sometimes you have to talk about stuff that people buy.

The need to make RK self-sustaining would be a reason to add a national component.

Anyway, as someone else said, put the donate button back on -- especially now while everyone is happy about the election.



Other than PayPal, is there a donate option? (oortdust - 11/12/2006 9:32:53 PM)
I am one of those strange people who don't use PayPal.  I'm willing to help out RK, but would need another option.


A detailed "about this site" (Quizzical - 11/12/2006 11:31:31 PM)
section would probably also help in convincing potential adverstisers that this is a good spot for an ad.  Look at the one Markos Moulitsas has on Daily Kos.
  http://www.dailykos....

I've been looking for that section like that on RK and if it is here, it's buried.
  http://www.bartleby....

It should tell the story of the goals, origin, and history of the site, the site's authors, and the site's successes. 



Nice pic from an Australian Paper (thegools - 11/12/2006 6:39:11 PM)


Lowell, we need this blog to continue (demnan - 11/12/2006 6:50:25 PM)
We did win one great big election for Jim Webb, but there have been countless countywide in Prince William and statewide in Virginia elections we have lost.  I think with the talent and the community we have we should focus on getting more Democrats in key local positions.  That's what I'd like to see.  When I come here, I want to learn about Virginia politics.  This blog has a unique perspective, I'd hate to see it lose that.


Re-posted for "thegools" (Lowell - 11/12/2006 7:02:26 PM)
http://www.smh.com.a...


There's still a lot of work to do (bamboo - 11/12/2006 7:05:11 PM)
RK has filled a niche because MSM reporting on state-wide politics is deeply inadequate. And it's not just the Shenandoah Valley, as one commenter noted, nor is it just during election campaigns. Try following state affairs from the Richmond Times-Dispatch or even the Washington Post! (The laughable analysis front-paged in today's RTD on why Allen lost is a case in point.) And when it comes to consistent reporting on the workings of the General Assembly, there's almost no where to turn. Plus there's virtually no public awareness on what goes on at the Virginia Supreme Court and many other major state agencies, unless you live and work in a government job in Richmond. So yes, keep the focus on Virginia, but if possible, widen participation to bring sunlight to the many benighted corners of state government. If there were not a virtual veil drawn over Virginia's political affairs by media neglect and if there were more informed voters, there would be fewer George Allens and more Jim Webbs.


RK Provides a Service to Democrats (Thomas Paine - 11/12/2006 7:49:18 PM)
Raising Kaine provides a valuable early-warning service for Democrats in Virginia.  It also covers many issues that are ignored by the MSM.

If RK intends to cover legislation coming before the Virginia General Assembly and Senate, it will have to show more objectivity so people understand both sides of the debate on a bill.  To effectively lobby an issue or a bill, you need to know the arguments being made by the other side as well as the rhetoric bolstering your position.

I hope there is a way to keep RK going, even though I tend to get people seeing "red" with many of my postings.



I agree that debate on General Assembly topics (PM - 11/12/2006 7:57:32 PM)
is a very good idea.  The MSM does ignore lots of issues of importance to Virginians.

Some topics easily lend themselves to extended objective discussions, even touchy topics such as transportation funding.

It is going to be hard to get people objective on some of the social issues, and there we may just have to disagree.  And kick and scream a little.



Yes, service to Democrats, but...... (bamboo - 11/12/2006 8:39:34 PM)
Of course RK shouldn't try to be a substitute for primary media reporting. But we badly need a dialogue on so many issues in Virginia and it's not much happening on a statewide basis anywhere else, so far as I know. Perhaps RK could just ease into a broader discussion of the concerns of the day among Dems, while gearing up for the extradinary needs of political campaigns, with an eye to next year's General Assembly races which will almost certainly to be under-covered by MSM.


Charge a nickel a word! Just kidding. (PM - 11/12/2006 7:49:37 PM)
I'm in for contributing.

Is there any thought to a two (or more) tiered payment system?  We would want the general public to browse and comment and even write a diary now and then, for free.  But maybe paying x dollars gets you the twice a day diary privilege, while x+n dollars gets you unlimited diaries.

Just thinking off the top of my head.



You better be kidding... (Kathy Gerber - 11/12/2006 7:59:14 PM)
and I hope it's not retroactive or I will have to take out a very large loan :|

I prefer the no-ads option.  I wouldn't want to see anyone who really can't afford it penalized.  Just saying..

And your diaries themselves are contributions.. just saying.



yours too (PM - 11/12/2006 9:36:25 PM)
If the cost were retroactive I'm afraid I'd be panhandling right now


Would the access control mechanism of the software even support this? (Loudoun County Dem - 11/12/2006 8:04:45 PM)
...There may be software restrictions to tiered access...


I Would Certainly Contribute (Barbara - 11/12/2006 8:21:35 PM)
I like the 'Century Club' idea mentioned earlier.  I would be more than happy to contribute.  Not too keen about Google adds.  I would also volunteer to do what I can. 

What I love about this site is the discussion with like-minded people.  Now that we all see how positive and results-oriented it can be, it can't stop. 



Thanks, Lowell. (eve - 11/12/2006 8:42:13 PM)
I agree with all the people here who said that Raising Kaine is very special because of the trust you inspire. That is due in no small part to the integrity you bring to this blog:))

Thank you also for making someone from Texas feel at home.

Thanks to the very committed progressive community of Virginia, you have all achieved a great deal with the election of Jim Webb. (I was honored to be able to volunteer a little bit in this effort.)

I hope my state of Texas pays close attention to what the voters of Virginia have accomplished.



RE: Cost (JPTERP - 11/12/2006 8:49:44 PM)
I think the idea of having a fee is reasonable (for Diary postings?  Or a nominal fee to post comments--e.g. $10).  This might limit trolling as well.

However, it's a good idea to have the content publicly available for free. 

If back, in April of this year I had seen a fee based site to get info on the progress of the Webb campaign or Virginia politics, I think I probably would have been skeptical about the site being worth the value (I mean how valuable can blogs be?)

Also, what are the prospects for ad revenue?  I would think the traffic would likely attract advertisers.

What is the cost structure for DailyKos?  That might be a model to follow.



I don't like the idea (pitin - 11/12/2006 10:34:29 PM)
of charging people to comment or to post diaries, it would defeat the whole purpose of a community blog.

I do like the idea, of paying to be a "subscriber" to which the only benefit is you don't see the ads (not sure if soapblox allows this option technically) and that you get to benefit RK.

Perhaps, "century club" members get a cool little icon next to thier name when they diary or comment.

DailyKos, only has the "no ads" option, not sure of costs though.



Costs (CommonSense - 11/12/2006 9:02:13 PM)
While I agree and I probably would have thought twice about "paying" for information initially, I think RK has proven itself over the long haul and it is time to insure it goes on.
Perhaps a base of financial supporters and technical supporters would still allow free access?
How do you see it Lowell?  It's your baby, what do you want us to do?
Perhaps a meeting is in order?


A base of financial supporters (jlmccreery - 11/12/2006 9:26:07 PM)
Free access (essential to bring on board new folks) and a base of financial supporters (essential to keep RK operating) are, IMHO, the only way to go. See my comment on Steve's Century Club idea for a demonstrating of how serious I am when I say this.


Keep it going... (Nick Stump - 11/12/2006 9:30:51 PM)
Lowell, I realize running a blog is probably the best way in the world to go broke, unless you want to get into the music business.  I would urge you to keep the site going.  As for charging to post diaries, I think it's a bad idea, as it would restrict posting to those who can afford it.  I'd certainly be willing to send a donation to RK, and I expect other readers would also.  But donations are short-lived solutions to the real day to day expenses of keeping a blog going. 

I know you've been going full-time and it takes a full-time worker and more to keep such an operation going.  You've done an outstanding job for Virginia and for America.  Without Raising Kaine, the country would not be enjoying a Democratic Senate come January. 

Think about the point of difference between RK, Daily Kos, MyDD, etc.  What niche could RK fill not covered by these other blogs.  There's a lot of positioning questions people rarely talk about, but they're just as valid here as they are when you're selling soap. 

I have some thoughts about this, and I'd like to get them figured out and written down.  I'm know there's a way you can stay in business and still serve your clients--(Virginia voters).  You guys have done a remarkable job.  Frankly, after drafting Jim Webb and pushing him though to the Senate, I feel like Democrats all over the country should be sending you stacks of hundred dollar bills with a thank you note.

Right now, Dems are all sitting back with a big grin, not thinking about what they might do to help the folks who put that grin on their faces.  we'll be in another election cycle.  RK is too close to DC to not be involved.  I'll have more thoughts on this and will be in touch.  Thanks again for all your great work for the country.  This was not just a Virginia election.  The whole country owes you and all the RK faithful, like Kathy Gerber and many more.  I pick out Kathy because she was one of my favorite writers on RK, but there were many others. 

Once again, Virginia, America thanks you.  Throughout our history this country has turned to Virginia.  Once again you have delivered.  Thank you.

Nick 



Wow, what can I say after everyone else.... (bladerunner - 11/12/2006 9:39:44 PM)
I was probably just as interested as most of the people on this blog to see Felix get a forced retirement. I only did 2 diaries or so, but it was the first thing I read everyday when the computer was fired up. I already miss it. Lowell was OUTSTDANDING. I hope he has some good fortune.

This site is a heck of a medium. Everyone looks at it, including reporters. It has to keep going in some form, prefereably at the state level with some slant for the national scene.

I enjoyed reading everyone's thoughts during this years campaign(kathyinBlacksburg, teacherKen, PJ,Andrea Chamblee and more) I mostly responded and posted comments, and I am sorry if I offended anyone with my graphic language, but when I get in to something like this and believe strongly, it comes out. What can I say? Hopefully I'll catch you guys down the trail sometime. Best, ME.



Sign me up! (Kindler - 11/12/2006 9:44:20 PM)
I certainly agree to contribute whatever it takes to keep RK going, whether in dollars, sweat or both.  RK should be contributor-based, though not fee-based (keep the audience as wide as possible). 

And if fundraising really takes off, other possibilities may open up.  How about an RK-supported progressive Virginia conference?



Here's A Pennsylvania Political Blog (PM - 11/12/2006 9:48:14 PM)
http://www.keystonep...

I have found valuable info on this Pennsylvania political site from time to time; I went to it when I wanted to monitor the Santorum race, and passed some items to national blogs

There may be some good ideas in the model they use; they seem to provide many more links to political stories in the Pennsylvania press

BTW, I worked with Bob Casey's brother in DC and the brother was a highly moral guy -- I think the whole family is like that -- I don't agree with Bob Casey on some issues (you can guess) but I don't think he'll be a lightweight as some have suggested -- I think he will bring an ethical voice to the Senate



Regarding "free goods".... (ericy - 11/12/2006 10:11:39 PM)

If what you are trying to say is that you are getting burned out, I certainly understand.  Everyone who worked hard for the election ought to take some time off to recharge their batteries...

I guess a question is, what is the most work in keeping this site going?  Is it the writing and all that?  Would it help to have some guest front-pagers, kind of like what Markos does?

I suppose some amount of work is the technical stuff under the hood.  Is this an area where help is needed?



Well, I certainly am tired right now. (Lowell - 11/13/2006 12:11:45 AM)
This has been a long, exhausting campaign.  I have enjoyed much of it, and the end result was great, but the personal attacks (by both Republicans and Democrats, sad to say) were not exactly fun.  Also, the amount of work needed to keep this blog at a high quality level has not been small.  One thing that's kept me going the past two years has been my belief in  the tremendous importance of electing Tim Kaine and then Jim Webb.  Now, I'm not sure whether that level of adrenaline/motivation will be there for 2007.


Very understandable... (Loudoun County Dem - 11/13/2006 12:38:57 AM)
...you have more than earned a rest. How can we spread the effort to help you out? Many hands making light work and all...


Go on vacation for a while. (thegools - 11/13/2006 5:10:22 PM)
I worked hard (my job and the Kaine campaign) last year.  Then after the election I turned my political brain off for a while. 

As I recall I was well rested by the time late December rolled around and I began looking at the 2006 Senate race.

So my advice again, take a vacation from politics for a while....see you in December.



A looooong while! (Lowell - 11/13/2006 5:24:44 PM)


Here in Loudoun County we didn't even get Christmas off last year... (Loudoun County Dem - 11/13/2006 5:40:44 PM)
...right after the general election we had a special election in January for our State Senate seat after Mims resigned to work in the AG office. Democrat Mark Herring defeated Mick Staton (son in law of Dick Black) 62% to 38% and we won every precinct outright, the WaPo headline on the web site the next day - "Herring edges GOP rival" (I wish I was kidding, some 'liberal press').


Keeping the RK Blog (seamusotoole - 11/12/2006 10:38:49 PM)
Lowell, let us know exactly what you think it might take to keep the blog going in Virginia.  I, too, am exhausted and need to take some time off so feel free to do that.  I think the grassroots are so important in virginia.  We need to keep people informed.  We still have a ton to do in this state to turn it BLUE.  I'd love to see Virginia go blue in the 2008 Presidential race.  Although Northern Virgnia is pretty blue at this point, we've got a long way to go in other parts of the state....we're making progress but we all need to pitch in and be informed.

All the local elections for Delegates and State Senators are coming up next year.  I think we as a group could really take on some races, especially Bob Marshall, in Prince William County, etc.  Then we're at 2008.  All the work we continue to do now will carry over for the Presidential race.  This blog has been terrific in keeping us informed both on a national level and in Virginia.  I've loved hearing from people in all different areas of Virginia and have met some great people while campaigning for Webb. 

I'm also willing to contribute financially to a Century Club and do what I can to keep it going.  Thanks Lowell for your patience.  Maybe sometime when you have a minute you can help those who are not real computer saavy learn how to blog a little better and in particular download pictures.  What a great week this has been for Virginia!!!!

Mary Lee



My finger hurts (libra - 11/12/2006 10:57:33 PM)
from hitting all those fours (Excellent) in the ratings... :)

Like everyone else, I don't want RK to cease and desist, for all the reasons that previous commenters have mentioned and one which nobody mentioned but which I -- a linguist by training -- think is a good one too. The name -- Raising Kaine -- is wonderful and should not be dumped into the dustbin of history.

Like most, I think RK should remain focused on VA issues; there are plenty of national blogs, of various degrees of shrillness for everyone to pick their favorites, but nothing that concentrates on VA with the same dedication and the same  comprehensive sweep. My local Dem HQ has closed its door for the next 2-years -- they can't afford to keep going in a "fallow season" -- so where am I to get my daily dose of adrenaline and my VA politics education?

I'll happily join the "Century Club" or even a QT (quarter thousand, $250) Club, if it means that RK remains active. I wouldn't mind seeing ads on the site; I've learnt to ignore them all on other (national sites) and if someone thinks it's worth their money to advertise here -- even with anti Dem ads (perhaps, *especially* with anti-Dem ads ) -- they're welcome.

I'd be VIOLENTLY OPPOSED to pay-per-post policy, probably to the extent of removing the site from my Addressbook and never again coming to read. It's an exclusionary policy, based on the pocketbook and, to me, not much different from some of the vote-suppression tactics which disenfranchise the poorer segments of the society of (from? Sorry. Your English prepositions have been giving me headaches for the past 50 yrs )having their say.

It would be a pity if the VADem/RK community were to part ways because of money matters. Since I've started reading RK (about 3-4 months ago), I've learnt a lot about NoVA and, hopefully, some NoVA people have had a chance to re-assess their views of RoVA, too. A good article on the subject, in today's WashPo BTW:
http://www.washingto...

We're still *one* state. And we still share *one* overwhelming "moral value": making this state as good as possible -- that is, "blue" -- for as many as possible, not just for those with deep pockets. I feel as much proprietary pride in having elected Webb as anyone else here, even though my total family "input" was, probably, no more than $500 (I just recently learnt that my son, who lives and votes in CA, also contributed to Webb campaign. But I didn't ask him how much ). I've never contributed to strictly political causes before, and my husband not much; if contributions became mandatory before I could be heard, I'd tell you to take a hike.

So. Stay with us, stay a VA-oriented blog, restore the contribution button to the site (I'm sure things will have changed now, and you're likely to see more traffic on in) , but don't, ever, become a "pay for play" site...



What's next? (cvllelaw - 11/12/2006 11:25:36 PM)
First, I hope that we will be able to have either Raising Kaine or something else like it to help with energizing folks to retake the General Assembly in 2007.  There are 10 House of Delegates members who won with less than 60% of the vote.  Some of them -- Dave Albo, Jeff Frederick -- have already been written about on this and other sites.  Others -- Dudley (House 9th, 52.8%), Peace (97th, 50.83% in a special election) -- would seem to be REALLY good targets.  There are also a few Republicans who were unopposed in 2005 who could be vulnerable.  In the Senate, 6 Republicans were elected with less than 60%.  We need to get the same energy behind our candidates there that we got behind Tim in 2005 and Jim in 2006.  Part of it is candidate recruitment -- if prospective candidates know that that there could be a web presence behind them, it must help recruitment.  I don't know who in the State Party -- maybe Brian Moran? -- is worrying about candidate recruitment for the House, but it would seem to me that bloggers should be a part of that discussion, rather than just as an outside force pushing a different candidate.

I have never really been aware of how Raising Kaine works, though I have gathered that Lowell has been THE MAN.  If it is his plan to get a real job, there may be some way to divide his responsibilities among a number of people so that Raising Kaine can continue.  I doubt that we could raise enough money from enthusiasts to pay him a salary, so we'll have to figure out something else.  I'd be happy to join that discussion, and to help how I can.

Second, I hope that folks will consider seriously encouraging Mark to NOT run for Senate, but to run for Governor in 2009 instead.  (If he isn't elected Vice President.)  In the Senate, he'll be one of 51 or 52.  As a gubernatorial candidate, he'll be a shoo-in, and then he'll be able to maintain a veto over redistricting in 2011.  I think that this is more in line with his thinking, and if it is, let's not try to talk him out of it.  Although I gather that Brian Moran is running for Governor, and I'd be happy to support him, is there any doubt that Mark would whomp any Republican, whereas Brian would have a tough race?

Third, if that is what happens, who would we want to run against Tom Davis for John Warner's seat?  (Although there is an intriguing possibility that the Jim Gilmore folks would push him for Senate, setting up another fratricidal situation in the Republican Party.)  If not Mark, who?

Lloyd Snook



What they said (Silver Fox - 11/13/2006 9:16:53 AM)
I am in agreement with the tone of the previous posts.  RK is too valuable to lose.  It has given us a real sense of community statewide (For instance, Kathy in Blacksburg or Susan Mariner if you ever need a place to stay, I've got extra bedrooms. I live in the Reston/Herndon area if there is a meeting up here to work on a statewide grassroots strategy like someone suggested earlier. Todd Smyth has my email if you want to get in contact with me directly.)  I'd be willing to be a Century Club member and while I am definitely NOT  computer savvy, I'd do what I could.  This is my first experience at blogging and I have found it invaluable as a grassroots mobilizing tool, witness Susan's sharing her Webb Wagon idea with us all.  Within a coouple of weeks there were Webb Wagons in use across the state.  We found it invaluable for one of our members to work the Vienna Farmers Market where we couldn't set up a table like the one we have regularly at the Reston Farmers Market.  We've got a lot to do next year to work on holding and expanding the gains we have made in the State Senate and the House of Delegates and positioning ourselves for the 2008 national election.  Now is the time to nourish those grassroots, fertilize them and encourage them to spread.

Anne



"Century Club" Donations (cycle12 - 11/13/2006 9:51:55 AM)
Earlier this morning, under the RK heading "What's Next - Another Angle", I posted a message listing RK PAC's reported finances and gave the following snail-mail address for making minimum annual $100 donations to it:

RK PAC
P. O. Box 1661
Clintwood, VA  24228

Please join with me as you are able.

Thanks!

Steve McGraw, Charter Member
RK PAC "Century Club"



Thanks Steve! (Eric - 11/13/2006 10:44:19 AM)


My opinion............ (Left Wing - 11/13/2006 10:40:33 AM)
1) Keep Raising Kaine focussed on Virginia.  We are practically a blue state now, so let's keep going.  On the other hand, don't make it a rule.  If things are slow in Virginia, why not discuss national issues.  The discussions would naturally go back to Virginia topics when things start happening here.

2) Ask for donations.  Also have fundraisers periodically where you set a goal...like 1,000 donations.  Democratic Underground does this and it seems to work out fine. 



Can Someone Catch Me Up? (Barbara - 11/13/2006 10:09:08 PM)
I'm confused where this goes next.  Will contributing to the PAC keep the site going?  Who will run it?  Sorry--I don't know all the players.