George Allen: "Poll and Run" on Iraq?

By: Lowell
Published On: 10/21/2006 6:06:17 PM

The Webb campaign points out, correctly, that George Allen has been changing his position along with the polls.  I guess that's what "principled Jeffersonian conservatives" - or whatever the polls and foucs groups tell Allen he should be calling himself these days - do.  Perhaps we might call it "poll and run" on Iraq?  Just a thought...
George Allen has been steadfast in support of the Bush AdministrationGÇÖs failed policy in Iraq.  That is, of course, until George BushGÇÖs political fortunes began to turn.  Months ago, as George Allen looked like a lock for re-election, and George Bush still had not turned into a drag on the popularity of Republicans across America, Allen was happy to thoughtlessly parrot White House talking points on Iraq. Now with Bush suffering and Allen floundering, Allen is trying to distance himself from his own position on Iraq because polls tell him if he doesnGÇÖt change he will lose.

GÇ£All along Allen said GÇÿthere is no substitute for victory,GÇÖ now we know he was talking about winning an election not winning a war. When Bush can no longer provide Allen with political cover, Allen goes running toward any Iraq position that can help him win,GÇ¥ said Webb spokesperson Steve Jarding.


GÇ£This is all about politics for George Allen. He was with Bush when it was politically expedient, and now that its not, he flip-flopped. This is a character issue,GÇ¥ said Jarding.

If we are not going to GÇ£stay the course,GÇ¥ what ideas does George Allen have for new tactics in Iraq?

WhatGÇÖs George AllenGÇÖs plan?


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AP Story Very Nicely Noted This (PM - 10/21/2006 6:23:16 PM)
http://www.forbes.co...

Associated Press
Iraq Questions Follow Va.'s Allen
By BOB LEWIS , 10.20.2006, 07:13 PM

Republican Sen. George Allen called for "changes in tactics" in how the U.S. is fighting the Iraq war on Friday as he continued to face questions about his morphing position on the war.

  cat2_flip_flop

"The situation there is one that needs adjustments, that needs changes in tactics. We need to adapt to the situation on the ground," Allen said at a campaign event Friday morning with GOP leaders of the state legislature.

Even so, Allen, whom polls show to be in a tight governor's race with Democratic candidate Jim Webb, has yet to reject or criticize the hard line on Iraq that he had touted for months and that President Bush repeated Thursday at an Allen fundraiser.

More questions were likely later Friday, when Allen and Webb were to appear separately at a forum of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in Hampton.

Webb has been a critic of the war since 2002, before the U.S.-led invasion, when he wrote that it would mire the United States in a bloody and protracted quagmire and destabilize the oil-rich region. He cited the war, in part, for his decision to leave the GOP.

Allen began shifting his public position on the unpopular war two weeks ago after fellow Virginia Sen. John Warner, a five-term moderate and chairman of the Armed Services Committee, returned from an Iraq visit saying the war was "drifting sideways," with Iraq's fledgling government unable to disarm its deadly sectarian militias. ***

This AP story will go all over Virginia. 

Did you notice that Allen in his search for something to say uttered a duble redundancy?



Governor's Race ?? (norman swingvoter - 10/22/2006 8:05:40 PM)
The article refers to this as a governor's race.  "Allen, whom polls show to be in a tight governor's race with Democratic candidate Jim Webb"  Gosh I've been following the wrong race !!


I love this line of Allen's from today's U-turn: (GeorgeAllenVa - 10/21/2006 7:15:37 PM)
"Mistakes have been made, and progress has been far too slow. We can't keep continuing to do the same things and expect different results."
  And that's the reason we need a new Senator.
 


Denial of responsibility=Saying "mistakes have been made" (PM - 10/21/2006 7:32:46 PM)
An English teacher would say --"Georgie, your sentence doesn't say who made the mistakes."

Speaking of questionable English usage, this is from the Allen campaign site.  Shouldn't it say "Racing Fans", if you know what I mean?


Support George Allen



Snark!! (Catzmaw - 10/21/2006 7:56:15 PM)


Great, to the point letter in today's WaPo (PM - 10/21/2006 7:55:46 PM)
http://www.washingto...

A Closer Look at the Word 'Cowboy'
Saturday, October 21, 2006; Page A18

As Sen. George Allen endeavors to portray himself to Virginia voters as a cowboy ["Will Sen. Allen's Cowboy Boots Fit Virginia Voters?" Metro, Oct. 8], I am reminded of an insight by eminent psychologist Robert A. Johnson, who commented on those who take the cowboy as their most virile symbol of maleness: "Half of that word (cow) is feminine; the other half (boy) is immature. Why not bullman?"

ROBERT R. MEIER
Alexandria

rayna%20white%20cowboy%20bootsm


Allen's running tactics (libra - 10/21/2006 8:23:54 PM)
Lowell:
"George Allen has been changing his position (on Iraq -- addition mine) along with the polls."

As I said on an earlier "thread", Allen doesn't have to stick to the old and tired ("stay the course") line, as long as he has his "doppelgänger" Bush sitting right behind him, waiting to say it for him. He (Allen) gets to have his cake and eat it too, and the public "gets" whichever message is more acceptable to them.

PM (Mistakes were made):
An English teacher would say --"Georgie, your sentence doesn't say who made the mistakes."

Even a Polish teacher of English would say that the English language -- unlike Polish, for example -- "dislikes" the passive voice, with undetermined subject (many of mine said it over, and over, and over again )...

"Speaking of questionable English usage, this is from the Allen campaign site.  Shouldn't it say "Racing Fans", if you know what I mean?"

PM, I adore you! This is a *fantastic* "catch"!!! *Especially* with the black'n'white (where's *brown*??? ) checkered flag behind Allen... 

I wonder though, if it's *really* just an "inadvertent" rape of the English language and/or just another example of Allen's overall stupidity. It could -- just as easily -- be an example of "dog-whistle" doublespeak. With Allen assuming that his "base" will "hear" -- and be reassured by -- the "message" ("the world may be checkered, but you know I'm for the white squares only"), while the rest of us miss the point...



PM rocks! (libra - 10/21/2006 8:34:38 PM)
"Half of that word (cow) is feminine; the other half (boy) is immature. Why not bullman?"

And that doesn't even allow for the *Brit* popular usage of the word "cow"... As in: "so, the stupid cow says to me..."



I am blushing (PM - 10/21/2006 8:40:47 PM)
I had missed the British "cow" possibility.

Here's a nice one from Bill Maher.  It applies to Neocon think tanks, like Heritage, but also could apply to George Allen:

Maher: And finally, new rule in two parts: (A) You can't call yourself a think tank if all your ideas are stupid; and (B) If you're someone from one of these think tanks that dreamed up the Iraq War and who predicted that we'd be greeted as liberators, and that we wouldn't need a lot of troops, and that Iraqi oil would pay for the war, that the WMD's would be found, that the looting wasn't problematic, that the mission was accomplished, that the insurgency was in its last throes, that things would get better after the people voted, after the government was formed, after we got Saddam, after we got his kids, after we got Zarqawi, and that whole bloody mess wouldn't turn into a civil war, you have to stop making predictions.

I like that rule.  I think we can enforce the rule on George Allen come Nov. 7.



All I know is..... (bladerunner - 10/21/2006 9:09:36 PM)
I've enjoyed watching Felix Allen squirm for his political life. I am a fairly compasionate person, but I can't think of anyone else that deserves to loose more than him. He has been such a disgraceful human being, and an arrogant winner of elections that when he looses were going to celebrate like it's 1999 AGAIN. And I'll be shouting from the roof tops with joy. That being said, I know there's a lot of work to do, cause remember Allens like the cock roach you squash and kill, yet it's legs still move.


There's only one word needed to accurately portray George Allen (scarlatagal - 10/22/2006 9:01:08 AM)
and that is:  UNPRINCIPLED


Where's the spell check....on lose. (bladerunner - 10/21/2006 9:10:55 PM)


Spell check (libra - 10/22/2006 1:35:54 AM)
Where's the spell check....on lose. 
by: bladerunner

Both "lose" and "loose" are legitimate words, so the spell check will accept both and discriminate against neither. It can't tell what your *intent* was... That's the main reason (other than that *all* text was red-underlined when I wrote in Polish ) I ditched spell-check long ago...



Spell check's unintended consequences (Catzmaw - 10/22/2006 2:00:31 PM)
I remember an elderly legal colleague once used spell check on pleadings intended for Fairfax County.  He wasn't paying attention and hit the replace button when it found the document's errors, and ended up sending a pleading addressed to and captioned for the "Forfeits Circuit Court".  Hee, hee.


Think tanks (libra - 10/22/2006 1:45:11 AM)
Somehow -- the paths of human thoughts are truly mysterious -- every time I hear/see the phrase "think tank", my mind's eye conjures a huge aquarium, full of man-eating sharks in 3-piece suits...

Leave them be, I say, and don't feed them. After a couple of months, use the (few) remainders in the travelling exhibit, called "Darwin and his theory of the survival of the fittest", which will tour all the primary schools of the US



For A Hilarious Debate Analysis (Catzmaw - 10/22/2006 3:40:33 PM)
go to this web site:

http://www.rpsd.com/...

I just found this while doing a blog search.  I guess it was recently posted, but it's hilarious and nails Allen's posing dead on.