UPDATE: Loud and Angry Voices...

By: phriendlyjaime
Published On: 10/20/2006 12:14:11 PM

3:30pm UPDATE:  According to this article, George Bush told supporters of Allen at the fundraiser to "go to their houses of worship" and tell others to vote for George Allen.
The President says Allen, who faced criticism after he used an ethnic slur against a campaign worker for his opponent, "doesn't need a poll or a focus group to tell him what to think or what to say," adding, "there's a lot of rhetoric in these campaigns, a lot of needless noise in a campaign. A lot of time it's to obscure the fundamental issues..."

"I really want to thank you all for coming. I appreciate you contributing to his campaign, and I want to thank the grassroots activists who are here for what you're fixing to do. See, we're getting close to voting time. We're coming down the stretch. And for those of you who are going to be putting up the signs and making the phone calls and going to your houses of worship or community centers urging people to do their duty as an American citizen and voting for George Allen, I want to thank you."

Isn't that illegal?  I'll check my sources, and please leave your input in the comments.  I would like to get to the bottom of his ASAP.  If George Bush is telling Allen supporters to act illegally, I think Virginia deserves to know.


The following is an account and pics from the protest outside of the Science Museum of Virginia in Richmond.  I don't have a digital camera (but at this point, I am thinking of buying one this weekend) and I wanted to wait on posting about the event until I got some great pics.  The pics and more are below the fold, but I wanted to make something clear first for readers.  Protests are looked at by some as a waste of time, innefective, "raunchy and profane", and flat out useless.  Well, I say to them that if you don't think countering a protest is a good idea or worth your time, then you are really doing your cause or candidate a disservice.  The conservative Richmond Times Dispatch reported that like I thought, the protest included at least 400 people.  Every other report claims 100 protestors showed up, and only a half dozen Allen/Bush supporters bothered to attend.  Democracy Now reported:

Thousands Protest Bush and Sen. Allen in Virginia
In Virginia, up to two thousand people held a demonstration Thursday at a fundraiser for Republican Senator George Allen attended by President Bush.

So, we can play the numbers game.  I would say that in the time I was there, we had an average of 400 people protesting at any given time.  There may have been more or less throughout the 3 hours I was there, but I cannot be entirely sure.  What I am sure about is that this was the entire group who came to support Mr. Bush and Mr. Allen.

What is especially sad about that group of 4-6 people was their attitude and lack of respect for freedom of speech.  They actually believed that we should be made to leave, even though we had a permit and their group did not.  They repeatedly whined to the police that the protestors were too loud, that we should go home and respect the event, and that we should be kept to one street corner like they were.  Well, 400 people don't FIT on one corner.  When the police tried to force any protestors away from "the supporters' corner" with the threat of arrests and "consequences", the protestors moved away, and gave a report to the media and the event organizers.  That policeman was soon moved closer to the museum, and the protestors were allowed back across the street. 
While cars were still allowed to drive on Broad Street before it was shut down during rush hour so the president could disrupt everyone's commute (anyone think that gave Allen any extra votes?), we never once had silence.  Thousands of people driving honked their horns and screamed.  Many of the bus drivers honked, people waved and cheered, and some people parked and came to protest with us.  A huge Bud Light truck joined in our screaming, and behind him a a caravan of city workers also honked and yelled.  We had 2 cars drive by that told us we were wrong to protest.  One man came to yell at us for profanity and our disrespect "for the children". 

Sure, the pic IS profane, but it gets attention.

It certainly got this man's attention...enough for him to make an illegal U-Turn onto a blocked road in front of the entire Richmond city police force.  He left quickly, and the sign stayed up the entire time.

As I posted last night on Raising Kaine, the biggest winner/hero yesterday for me was Brad Blanton.  Mr. Blanton went right up to the cops (ALL of the city's force, so I hope no one was getting killed or raped, bc Allen prevented them from getting any help) and told them he was taking Allen's signs, bc they were illegally placed in the median.  He told the cops they could arrest him if they wanted.

They let him take the signs.  Priceless.

I think that the biggest losers yesterday (besides Mr. Allen and Mr. Bush, who certainly did not win any new voters-the same people who were going to vote for him before paying him for food at a science museum are going to vote for him) were the citizens and commuters of Richmond, VA.  Our busiest streets and parts of I-95 and I-64 were shut down for long periods of time, and traffic in and around the city was horrible.  The DMV was shut down for over 4 hours, which prevented the customer service to over 225 people.  The Sceince Museum was closed all day.  Many people with annual memberships made phone calls to demand their money back due to the closing of the museum for political reasons. 

Basically, the majority of Richmond, VA was not happy to see the George twins. Well, I could have told them that would be the outcome.  :)

I've included a couple more photos.  I hope you enjoy them.  And remember-get out and  stand up for what you believe in, ALWAYS.  Eventually, the majority wins.

As always, this is x-posted at West of Shockoe


Comments



Did you ever know that you're my hero??? (Loudoun County Dem - 10/20/2006 12:50:21 PM)
Jaime, YOU RAWK!!! You too Thad!!! And Mr Blanton!!! And everyone else who was there!!!

I wish I could have been there with...



Thanks! (phriendlyjaime - 10/20/2006 12:59:19 PM)
I saw some of the greatest signs and shirts....The girl with the Monica sign was too much:  Monica had more president in her than Bush/Allen ever will!


thanks! (chiefsjen - 10/20/2006 2:52:02 PM)
i was wondering if there'd be some opposition showing up to this event...thanks for sharing...

i'm sure the guy that was pushing to have the MF sign removed uses that word all the time.

this is awesome!!!



Broken Links? (Doug in Mount Vernon - 10/20/2006 1:08:10 PM)
Why don't the pictures load for me?  When I click on the URL for each picture to see it directly, I receive a "not authorized" page.

Help Jaime!



The pics (phriendlyjaime - 10/20/2006 1:12:33 PM)
are uploaded and saved in blogger, bc I x post everything I do here on my blog.

But all of the pics are available here at Richmond IMC.



This event.... (Left Wing - 10/20/2006 1:09:48 PM)
....had a 60's feel to it, drums, cow bells, a couple of guys singing and playing guitars.  My favorite was a young man on a 8-foot high uni-cycle, with a flag and a sign that said "Bush eats Babies"!


WTF? (phriendlyjaime - 10/20/2006 1:10:43 PM)
You're in Richmond, and you don't play with me?  :(


Politics and houses of worship (Ingrid - 10/20/2006 3:53:09 PM)
It is against IRS tax regulations to campaign in a church for a specific candidate, and it could cost churches their tax-exempt status.  From my own experience in Arlington, in African American churches the pastors encourage you to vote but do not say for whom to vote.  Candidates in attendance get introduced.


What I meant (Ingrid - 10/20/2006 4:03:03 PM)
was "for a church to campaign for a specific candidate".


Gotcha. (phriendlyjaime - 10/20/2006 4:04:04 PM)
I think it is on the verge of crossing a very fine line....


A discussion on another site by CPAs explains the IRS regulations... (PM - 10/20/2006 4:54:44 PM)
http://www.nysscpa.o...

This discussion was long (so I won't attempt to digest it)but reasonably clear, and I would recommend anyone interested in politics to read it because this is an issue that comes up frequently.

Is the source trustworthy?  It's on the site of the New York Society of CPAs so I would say so.

weight



rules on churches (snolan - 10/20/2006 5:15:32 PM)
So far as I know it is not illegal for churches to promote a specific issue or candidate, so long as they do not do so while also claiming Tax-Free status as a church.

If they pay taxes, they can do anything they like.

If they hide from taxes, they should not be endorsing anyone.



Crossposted on Democratic Underground: (beachydem - 10/21/2006 8:00:37 PM)
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