Bogus "Poll" by the Family Foundation of Virginia

By: Lowell
Published On: 10/1/2006 3:24:22 PM

I just got a robocall from the Family Foundation of Virginia, asking a series of "questions" that aren't really "questions" because of the totally biased way they are phrased.  It's also not a legitimate "poll" when you ask "questions" in such a way that make it clear how you think people should answer. 

For instance, and I'm paraphrasing here (didn't have a chance to record the call, unfortunately), one question went something like, "Do you support the U.S. effort in Iraq?" Well, obviously, everyone supports the TROOPS in Iraq, and almost everyone would love to see us succeed in helping Iraq become a thriving Democracy.  However, that's not the way to ask a "question" in a legitimate "poll" on this issue.  A REAL question in a REAL poll would say something like, "Weighing all the pros and cons, do you believe the best course of action in Iraq right now is for US forces to be increased, kept about the same, or reduced?"  But noooo...
Another example, and I'm paraphrasing again, "Do you believe marriage should be between ONE man and ONE woman?"  Well, uh, YEAH, now that you put it THAT way, many people might say!  But, of course, that's not the REAL question at all.  What the REAL question is this year in Virginia is whether or not to amend the Commonwealth's constitution in a way that takes away rights from both homosexuals AND unmarried heterosexuals, while outlawing something that's ALREADY ILLEGAL in Virginia - so-called "gay marriage."

On and on the Family Foundation's fake "poll" went, with biased and misleading questions on the estate tax, porn filters at libraries, and other hot-button "wedge" issues.  Obviously, this is not a "poll" but a paid political advertisement. Yet, the Family Foundation claims that it is "independent/unaffiliated" for its "Commonwealth of Virginia Campaign 2006" (CVC 2006) profile.  It also claims, on its website, to be "non-partisan."  Well, sorry, but there's nothing "non-partisan" about this phony "poll" I just received. 

Attention, CVC: I urge you to look into the "Family Foundation of Virginia" and determine whether or not it is suitable for inclusion in your next annual drive.  Specifically, I do not believe that the Family Foundation of Virginia meets the following test that you lay out on your website:

All charities participating in the CVC have been pre-screened to insure that they are fiscally sound and that they perform the services stated.

So, let's get this straight: the Family Foundation of Virginia claims to be a nonpartisan "research and education" organization, but it obviously is not.  I mean, come on, how on earth is conducting a blatantly partisan, pro-Republican "poll" just 37 days before an important election considered "research and education?"  While we're on the subject, how is such a poll - almost a "push poll" - "non-partisan?"  And how does an organzation that carries out such activities qualify for inclusion as a charity by the CVC's criteria?


Comments



Just got the same at my house (Susan Mariner - 10/1/2006 3:35:35 PM)
I believe they called it "Survey 2006."

Sigh... When will "family values" cease to include lying to the uninformed about one's true intentions?  Those are not the values I am trying to impart to my children.  Disgusting.



Do you remember the exact wording (Lowell - 10/1/2006 3:37:23 PM)
of the questions?


I got the same call... (Loudoun County Dem - 10/1/2006 3:48:02 PM)
...but I wasn't able to transcribe the questions (hands full), I answered as many as I could until I got so disgusted that I just hung up. I agree that all of the questions were very right wing slanted (Do you agree that taxes are too high? Do you consider yourself pro-life? etc).


Here are the questions, courtesy of an RK reader (Lowell - 10/1/2006 3:54:31 PM)
Somewhat paraphrased, but close.  Sooooo, is this a real poll by a "non-partisan" "research" group or not?

1) Do you consider yourself Pro-Life or Pro-Choice
2) Do you believe marriage is solely between one man and one woman?
3) Do you agree with the elimination of the Death Tax?
4) Do you believe we are following the right policies in Iraq?
5) Do you believe in School Choice?
6) Do you believe in stem cell research using "unborn infants"?
7) Do you think public school library computers should have filters on them regarding pornography?
8) Do you trust Republicans more than Democrats to be fiscally responsible?
9) Do you attend church, synangogue, etc, at least once a week?
10) Have you ever contributed to a political group, church group, etc?
11) Are you male?
12) Do you believe fetuses should be anesthetized in the 2nd or 3rd trimester before they are aborted?


non-partisan (hrconservative - 10/1/2006 4:09:07 PM)
How are any of those questions NOT non-partisan?


Ah, one of our favorite trolls returns (Lowell - 10/1/2006 4:23:09 PM)
OK, let's turn it around.  If I asked you the following questions, pretending to be a "poll," what would you think?

*Do you support equal constitutional rights for ALL Americans, regardless of race, religion, or sexual preference?

*Do you believe that a woman, in consultation with her doctor and her husband, has the right to control her own body?

*Do you agree with the US intelligence community's findings that the Iraq war has made us LESS safe and has created MORE terrorists?

*Do you agree that the Estate Tax is the most fair, most progressive tax of all?

Right, I didn't think you'd like those.



Apparently one of the General Armisteads must be at a (PM - 10/1/2006 4:45:59 PM)
Civil War reenactment this Sunday.

Being an old FTC hand, I love looking at poll questions.  Even some of the major polls word questions improperly once in a while.  (It may depend who's paying them.)

My wife got one of these polls too. 

I hope that if Webb uses robocalling ads before the election that he really limits their use.  People are getting ticked off about them.

Here's a question they should have asked.  "Do you support filters on computers used by congressmen so they cannot look at porn?"



How about this question (Lowell - 10/1/2006 4:58:48 PM)
"Do you support filters on your telephone to screen out #@&@!*%#$ push polls from FEC-violating, far-right-wing organizations like the Family Foundation of Virginia?"

Just a thought.



I got it too.... (Left Wing - 10/1/2006 5:50:45 PM)
I could have sworn that #6 was "Do you approve of killing unborn fetuses....?"


I think you're right (Susan Mariner - 10/1/2006 7:58:31 PM)
they used the phrase "unborn fetuses" in the call I got too.  I don't remember the killing part, but the "unborn fetuses" is etched in my memory for sure.


Somewhat Paraphrased? (lauried - 10/2/2006 7:37:33 PM)
Um, 'somewhat paraphrasing' the questions defeats the whole purpose of this discussion.  The questions presented in their original format are definitely offensive to any person of intelligence because of the obvious and biased phrasing.

The poll would  be laughable if it weren't so frightening.  I say this many because people actually believe that these issues are black and white. Or in the case of people like yourself, you paraphrase the questions to suit your own needs. Scary.



We got one too (David Campbell - 10/1/2006 4:06:17 PM)
Maybe they are oversampling Democrats!


Yeah (Mark - 10/1/2006 4:36:55 PM)
I got it too earlier, around 1PM.

Exactly as noted above as to questions, etc.



My mother and I both got this call (demnan - 10/1/2006 4:56:06 PM)
By the end of the poll I was shouting "No" in the phone like a wild banchee.  My mother said, "I gave them all the wrong answers."  She might be blind and 85 but she's smart enough to know a push poll when she hears it.


Stupid Questions, Stupid Answers (Teddy - 10/1/2006 5:01:23 PM)
Stupid non-Partisan Answers to Stupid Non-Partisan Questions
1) Do you consider yourself Pro-Life or Pro-Choice
Pro-Choice except for prominent criminals-to-be
2) Do you believe marriage is solely between one man and one woman?
Nope, I'm Pro-Choice
3) Do you agree with the elimination of the Death Tax?
Nope: None of us gets out of here alive, of course we'll be taxed
4) Do you believe we are following the right policies in Iraq?
Nope, but I can't figure out just what the policy IS
5) Do you believe in School Choice?
Nope. Everyone has to attend, no truants allowed
6) Do you believe in stem cell research using "unborn infants"?
Sure, burn all 1st born males in the firey furnace, especially if named Meshak, Shadrack, and Abednego
7) Do you think public school library computers should have filters on them regarding pornography?
Nope, but yes for Congressmen, especially Republican (thanks)
8) Do you trust Republicans more than Democrats to be fiscally responsible?
Democrats so far, isn't that obvious?
9) Do you attend church, synangogue, etc, at least once a week?
Nope--- How about mosques?
10) Have you ever contributed to a political group, church group, etc?
Every day to insurgents of every type
11) Are you male?
Can I get back to you on that?
12) Do you believe fetuses should be anesthetized in the 2nd or 3rd trimester before they are aborted?
Sure, if done with marijuana?


They were all yes/no questions... (Loudoun County Dem - 10/2/2006 10:17:28 AM)
...so the first question was something like 'Do you consider yourself pro-life?'.

All of the questions were structured to make the repub choice yes (positive) and the Dem choice No (negative).



Got the same poll (Vivian J. Paige - 10/1/2006 5:03:52 PM)
My other half got it last night. There have been several people on NLS reporting that they were polled as well.

Justice would be that they oversampled D's and got unexpected results :)



Got it Yesterday (amahler - 10/1/2006 5:50:05 PM)
I got the same robocall yesterday close to 6 PM - I still have it in my caller-id as "S2006 - 703-961-9120".

  I also accidentally misheard the first question and said "Yes" before I realized it was asking me if I was "Pro-Life" rather than "Pro-Choice". Had it been a human, I'd have been immediately correcting it... but by the time I realized it, I was being asked the next carefully crafted bullsh*t question.

  The amusing thing, though, is my first wrong answer is clearly NOT going to match the stance of the rest my responses. :)

  Trust me, I got all the remaining answers right and, as another commenter said, was nearly yelling them into the phone in exasperation once I realized how slanted it was. Once again, the robo-call nature robbed me of my ability to really express myself (not that it would have mattered either way since a real person would have been powerless to express any of it in their tabulations as well).

  The whole thing was pretty freakin' disgusting.

  - Aaron



Oh my gosh! (Kathy Gerber - 10/1/2006 6:08:31 PM)
Hi, Aaron!  Hope you are well these days.


that's just not a poll. (Kathy Gerber - 10/1/2006 6:07:13 PM)
What - some 25% of the frequent writers here were polled?  Extrapolate that and they called what - 4.5 gazillion Virginians? 

Unprincipled cowards.



I had a message on my answering machine (Greg - 10/1/2006 6:17:47 PM)
Spent most of this afternoon at the office (bummer!) and just got home -- had a voicemail message saying that I had been called for a survey and they would call back later -- obviously pre-recorded.


Try to record it if you can. (Lowell - 10/1/2006 6:24:10 PM)
Thanks.


I think my wife (Eric - 10/1/2006 6:40:11 PM)
got the same poll earlier.  But she hung up before they got past the "this is a poll" part.

It's clear this isn't a sampled poll because it would be statistically invalid.  Perhaps they're going to call every single person in VA to get an accurate count... yeah right.

The only question I have is what it was targeting.  Democrats?  NOVA? 

It just doesn't make a lot of sense that all us Dems are getting it.



Of course it makes sense! (Lowell - 10/1/2006 6:47:04 PM)
Because this isn't a real poll, it's this right-wing group's "push poll"/advertising effort.  What I'm so pissed about is that this group is considered a charity, and claims to be "non-partisan."  Total crap, and possibly illegal too...


Is this the same group (Mark - 10/1/2006 8:12:32 PM)
that did some 'polling' last year during Kilgore?

Is FFV a 501(c)(6) organization, they would be saying they are a trade group or organization, and advocate on behalf of businesses. And their donations are not required to be disclosed.

If they are one, this is clearly illegal.



This is another example of why blogs are changing... (Loudoun County Dem - 10/1/2006 6:59:06 PM)
...the political playing field, This would have flown completely beneath the radar except for the fact that we talk to each other...


Hoping I get it again... (Greg - 10/1/2006 7:32:04 PM)
So I can post the MP3 of it.

Have my PC sound recorder cued. Directional mic pointed at the speakerphone...



I'm PO'd (Newport News Dem - 10/1/2006 7:47:20 PM)
I got a call and all I got was...

"Are you a registered voter in Virginia?"
I replied yes to which the reply was "We may call you back".

What about me...I wanna play!



I got it too... (Tom Joad (Kevin) - 10/1/2006 7:50:57 PM)
The one question that got me was with "Do I support a woman's choice to have her fetus injected with pain killing drugs before a second or third trimester abortion?" (paraphrase) I quite honestly did not know that this was an issue?


BTW (Newport News Dem - 10/1/2006 7:51:35 PM)
My caller Id was S2006 and the number was 703-961-9120 which google reports is the Family Foundation of Virginia.


If Allen was our candidate, we'd look to rally the base too (Arlington Tom - 10/1/2006 8:19:39 PM)
Sadly, especially when backed into  a corner, Virginia republicans default to hate, intolerance and deception. Perhaps because they have nothing to offer that will make Virginia, or America for that matter, a better place.

Don't forget the robo calling just before the Kaine election- the one with the music to cover the bad editing...  many think it helped rather than hurt our side.....



Um, this sounds illegal. (phriendlyjaime - 10/1/2006 9:00:28 PM)
Thadd and I have 3 messages on our machine (we screen every call) and it is the "Are you registered to vote?" message.  This really sounds illegal.  I hope those of you that have the phone number and any messages save them.  Any idea on who to contact?


Contact the FEC (Lowell - 10/1/2006 9:34:32 PM)
I would think.


This Is It! (AnonymousIsAWoman - 10/1/2006 9:08:48 PM)
Guys, this is the poll that Ginny Peters, Chair of the Fairfax County Democratic Committee warned about a few days ago.  I have her email up on my blog and I know Alice Marshall put it up on the FCDC blog too.

Please call the Webb headquarters and give them the questions (Lowell, you've probably done it already). And it wouldn't hurt for people to just call and let them know if you've gotten the poll so they can gauge the extent of it.

I also think push polls may be violating some campaign ethics rules, so you could also check with the Federal Election Commission if you've gotten a call.



they're calling for Burns too (butterbean - 10/1/2006 9:56:32 PM)
I saw the S2006 name and number on our caller ID and googled it. Seems the same number and name are robocalling for conrad burns too. I guess these are the folks to call when you are desperate.


Tax Status (Mark - 10/1/2006 10:38:33 PM)
And how does an organzation that carries out such activities qualify for inclusion as a charity by the CVC's criteria?

I am looking into their tax status. If they are a certain tax status, this could be the way to make complaints on them.



I didn't get it... :( (libra - 10/2/2006 12:44:29 AM)
I wonder which area is the target of the calls (I'm in Lexington) and how they choose their targets.

Some commenters here said that Dems were targeted, but I wonder. Our county co-ordinator (Nell Lancaster) says that, in VA, one doesn't register one's affiliation when registering to vote (something I didn't know; cramming for the naturalisation exam seems to have left big holes in my civics ). So it's all guesswork -- *on both sides of the fence* -- as to who's a Dem, a Repub, or an Indie.

Repubs have more money for rsearch and have been honing their targeting skills for ages (members of NRA, people who send in coupons for cigarette-rebates etc are more likely to be "their base". While people who send money to Planned Parenthood, or NARAL, or Emily's List... )

I usually get (s-mailed) "literature"(surveys and/or pleas for money from both camps, because I smoke (and redeem coupons) and because I give money to the local/state police and such (only during the years that the Dems are in power, but the Repubs haven't divined *that* yet ). Which would support Nell's contention about Virginia's voters not registering their party affiliation (if any).

Against all advice, I do not stuff the return envelopes full of garbage and send back. Those things have your name and number printed on them so, once you've pulled that trick, they'll stop wasting your money on you, which is *not* the object of the game :) What I do is collect a pile of Repub mailings, then take them to Washington and Lee U (though any public place would do as well) and leave the contents in the bathrooms, next to the toilet paper dispenser. I know; childish... But irresistible :)

Back to the push-poll.

I suppose, if you get caught un-prepared, you may not realize what's going on until some way into it (though, looking at the list, only the first question seemed legitimate or at least semi-legitimate to me). But now that you've all been warned...

*PLEASE* do not hang up on the b......s. Answer the first question to make them think you're hooked. Maybe even answer all their questions in a screwy manner, to put them off the scent.

Then *set the receiver next to the phone*, keeping the line open for at least 15 minutes (or longer, if you don't have to use the phone yourself). They may be getting a discount for bulk-phoning, but they're still paying for each connection. So, make them pay more. And tie up their lines -- as many of them as possible, for as long as possible. Every little bit counts (that's why I redeem coupons, including ones for cigarettes) and, if we bleed them dry, all the better; they'll have that much less money for TV attacks and such.

I spent the first 15 yrs in this country learning how to save money by comparison shopping (in communist Poland of my childhood and teens, a kilo of sugar cost the same in every store accross the country), the next 12 polishing my skills and the last 6 taking the game into the other half of the soccer field... IE, my tactics have gone from honing my defence to attack and I highly recommend it to everyone; it's great fun to beat the b......s at their own game :)



Tie them up for your neighbor's sake (snolan - 10/2/2006 9:33:37 AM)
Thank you libra - excellent idea.  I used to do this to cold calling telemarketers when I had a regular phone and got those calls too often.

It helps if you can get the human and then say: "You know, I don't know much about that issue, but I'd really like to know more.  Can you tell me all about both sides of the issue please?" - then quietly place the handset down by the phone and walk away.



I have a friend who could "hum" the sounds of a MODEM (snolan - 10/2/2006 9:30:50 AM)
I've lost contact with him (Ken - if you are reading this give me a shout please), but I had this friend who could cause MODEMs to synchronize to 2400 baud communications by simply humming the right tones into his telephone when a dialer program called his house.

We all got a laugh out of his odd skill then...

Now I see a real use for it...

Robo call begins asking questions,
2400 baud sync signal as answer to all questions...
Let them try to figure that out.

Buhahahaha!



Bogus Poll (lauried - 10/2/2006 7:26:49 PM)
I am another who just got the call.  Talk about pissing me off.  Yes, the questions are slanted to the extreme and leave no room for caveats.  The first question DOES NOT ask if one is Pro-Life or Pro-Choice.  It simply asks if 'you are Pro-Life.'  What a crock.  I am Pro-Life but believe in a Woman's Right to Choose.  The questions just go from bad to worse.  ARRRGH!


I doubt the purpose of the poll is to change your vote... (natsfan - 10/2/2006 10:07:59 PM)
That's never been shown to be very effective...particularly, as noted, with such extreme questions in the poll...not likely to sway the undecided, and definitely not going to change the minds of those already decided. 

I, too, got the "poll", and think its much more likely, particularly 5 weeks out from the mid-terms, that they're building a roster of likely Republican voters not already on their roles for "get out the vote" efforts.  Unfortunately, I, too, started ridiculing the poll after the 2nd question, so I can't test this theory...but I bet if you answer in the affirmative to all or most of the questions, you're likely to get a follow-up calls--and will probably even be offered a free-ride to the polls come November.  If you said you weren't registered to vote, you'd likely get someone offering to help you register ASAP. This was a cornerstone of the Republican "get out the vote" strategy in '04, and with a tight race in VA, I'm sure they're gearing up again.

Interesting question about their non-profit status.  I looked them up immediately after I got the call today, and they are are a registered 501(c)(3) with the IRS (Family Foundation, Richmond, VA...you can look it up here: http://apps.irs.gov/....  This "poll" likely violates that status, since the IRS code states that "voter education or registration activities with evidence of bias that: (a) would favor one candidate over another; (b) oppose a candidate in some manner; or (c) have the effect of favoring a candidate or group of candidates, will constitute prohibited participation or intervention..." and therefore violate the 501(c)(3) status.

I'd suggest everyone drops an email to the IRS Criminal Enforcement Division...and see what they do...although they may be too busy investigating anti-war sermons delivered in California churches...



I just got the call.. (blanch - 10/3/2006 10:58:32 AM)
I was enjoying my coffee and relaxing this morning when S2006 came up on the caller ID. I knew it was a survey, but I didn't know what I was in for...

I was suspicious after the first couple of questions, but then the robot asked me if I supported taking stem cells by killing unborn fetuses. I spit out my coffee and hung up on the robot without thinking.

I don't know if it's illegal, but it sure is rude. There should be a rule: no talking about killing fetuses before I've finished my first cup of coffee.



Record the exact questions by saying "repeat" (mugsy - 10/3/2006 11:32:05 AM)
Just got that same call here in Richmond, and scribbled the questions too fast to be accurate, but didn't think to say "repeat" before it was over. Here are the notes I took:

1) are you a registered voter?
2) do you consider yourself pro-life?
3) do you believe that marriage should only consist of a union between one man and one woman?
4) should the elimination of the death tax be permanent?
5) do you agree with our nations efforts in Iraq?
6) are you in favor of a tax credit to allow parents to choose the best school for their children?
7) do you support the use of unborn fetuses in stem-cell research?
8) do you believe that there should be filters to limit access to porn in all public libraries?
9) should churches be more active in political issues?
10) do you believe that a woman should be allowed to choose anaesthesia for her fetus during abortions in the 2nd and 3rd trimester?
11) Do you trust Republicans more than Democrats?
12) Do you attend a church, synagogue, temple or other place of religious or spiritual worship on a weekly basis?
13) Are you male?
14) Have you ever contributed to a political or social cause?

Oddly, there was an immediate prompt if I hesitated to answer the first 11 questions, but the last three I didn't even answer before the next question was asked.

Consider this - if Yes is a "right" answer, what does question 13 tell us about the pollster's opinion of women?



Concerning (VA Breeze - 10/3/2006 11:46:18 AM)
I received the robo call this morning also-If someone didn't really understand how stem cell research is done-this could have impact. Also, maybe it is a way for the GOP to say In-vitro fertilization is ok but stem cell research-bad.


FF of VA (kputt - 10/24/2006 11:42:53 AM)
I used the the turned around version of their biased survey on them and left messages on their voicemails to never disturb me at home again with their joke of an unscientific, ungodly, and biased survey ever again!