Michael Shear on Allen vs. Webb

By: Lowell
Published On: 9/28/2006 9:30:42 AM

From Michael Shear's column in today's Washington Post, I couldn't agree more:

The key word is battle. On both fronts, congeniality and respect appear to have been tossed out the window, replaced by a coarseness that is shocking, even in modern political times.

The more dramatic example has been the Senate race, which over the past six weeks has become weirder and weirder. The campaign everyone expected -- a clash of ideas about the war in Iraq -- has vanished in discussions about "macaca" and religion and women and racial epithets.

Virginia's political establishment is not filled with squeamish types. Just recall last year's fight for governor between Republican Jerry W. Kilgore and Democrat Timothy M. Kaine . It was no lovefest, and there were plenty of nasty moments.

But even battle-scarred politicos on both sides of that contest are shaking their heads at what's going on between Allen and Webb. And there's a sense that with six more weeks to go, there is more coming, none of it pretty.

So much for the best aspects of the "Virginia Way."  Oh, and thanks a lot, Allen campaign and surrogates, for being 90% responsible for this situation.!

PS  As far as I know, Jim Webb's offer of a series  of debates ON THE ISSUES still stands.  Why does George Allen refuse to participate?

Lowell Feld is Netroots Coordinator for the Jim Webb for US Senate Campaign.  The ideas expressed here belong to Lowell Feld alone, and do not represent those of Jim Webb, his advisors, staff, or supporters.


Comments



We are fighting a cancer (Bubby - 9/28/2006 9:53:38 AM)
And getting rid of cancer is a terrible ugly thing. But you never give up. Because cancer doesn't give up until it kills. George Allen is just the external growth of a cynical cancerous effort to dismantle our government - except for the part that profits a controlling elite. 


Some good news, I think (PM - 9/28/2006 10:31:56 AM)
I wrote in a previous comment somewhere back there about a local GOP leader who had not put up an Allen sign yet, though his Wolf sign was out.  I knew the Allen signs were available because two other houses in the area that usually have Republican signs had Wolf and Allen signs out. 

Yesterday I drove by the three houses (it's a back way to Route 50 that only the locals know about) and the Allen signs were down at the other two houses.  Huh?  I don't think anyone is taking them -- there has been little signage at all in our area.



Obviously us Webb supporters... (Delta Mike - 9/28/2006 10:44:07 AM)
... are stealing just the Allen signs, so it doesn't look "fishy." Or at least that's how I expect Dickwad Hams to spin it.


Same in the valley (Bubby - 9/28/2006 11:15:27 AM)
Little to see of Allen support.  People may be too embarrassed to put his name on their property, but that doesn't mean they won't vote for him.  We'll need every Webb vote.


A Few Morning Notes (PM - 9/28/2006 10:11:55 AM)
1. A Dan Cragg is quoted in the Shear article saying Webb told him of actions that demeaned blacks.  Interesting in that Cragg had a transcript of the interview wherein Webb supposedly said this stuff, but the transcript did not reflect Cragg's charges.

2. Irony of ironies.  Cragg writes fiction!  Ha!  I wonder if Wadhams will refer to him as a fiction writer.  http://www.contentli...  From his author's bio:  "He and his wife . . . live in Virginia, where honest citizens are allowed to pack heat. Visitors after dark are strongly urged to call ahead."

3. Cragg has written over 100 articles for the Washington Times.

4. Shear did not pay much attention to the George Beam story backing up Shelton.  Other papers gave it lots of space.http://home.hamptonr...

Allen teammate backs story about 1970s hunting trip
  By DALE EISMAN, The Virginian-Pilot
© September 28, 2006

WASHINGTON - A second former college football teammate of U.S. Sen. George Allen is disputing Allen's truthfulness about an early 1970s hunting trip that has become an issue in this year's election.

George Beam, now an executive at a nuclear engineering firm based in Lynchburg, was not part of the hunting party. But he told the Associated Press that one of the hunters, his now-deceased roommate, Bill Lanahan, described the incident to him later over a beer.

"Billy Lanahan told me they cut the head off a deer and stuffed it in a mailbox. He didn't say whose idea it was, and he didn't say, at least not in my presence, anything about a black family or a black neighborhood," Beam told the AP.

***
Beam's account partially supports claims by the third member of the hunting party, Hendersonville, N.C., physician Ken Shelton.

He has told reporters that it was Allen's idea to decapitate the deer and leave the head at a black household. ***



COMMENT HIDDEN (blackamerican - 9/28/2006 10:17:08 AM)


From Webb? (Alicia - 9/28/2006 10:59:18 AM)
That just shows how hard you are trying to spin!  haha

What about macaca?
What about the deer head?
What about his lying about his Jewish ancestry?  And WHY would he do that?
What about the n word?

It's not in the transcripts, Dan Cragg appears to be a huge right wing guy, and the Allen campaign directed reporters to him.

Did the Webb campaign direct reporters to anyone regarding Allen?  Nope.  Those people, from knowing Allen personally, contacted the media themselves from the sheer horror of imagining him running for Pres.

Allen is reaping what he sowed, and instead of being a man about it, is trying to lie his way through each and every incidence.

Shame on Allen, and shame on your screen name.  I may be black, I may be white, I may be asian, I may be latino -- but only a Republican would list their racial status to try to gain credibility.

You just come off as a dumb American.



Ummm, have you been to Watts? (Delta Mike - 9/28/2006 11:07:53 AM)
My grandmother owned a liquor store there during the 1960-1970s, and let me tell you, if you were a white ROTC dude, you would have been CRAZY to even go to Watts, let alone drive around and pretend to shoot people. If they did that, the gangs would have taken them down before you could blink.

I ain't saying Webb has never used the term in a derogatory manner, but Allen had better come up with better evidence than this.



BlackAmerican..... (uva08 - 9/28/2006 11:38:06 AM)
First of all I would like to ask you are really?  Very rarely have I seen anyone feel the need put their race as their alias on these message boards.  Second:  How can you still defend Allen after this mountain of evidence against him?  I can see you not supporting either candidate but to show such vehement support for Allen is illogical.  He voted against King Day, he voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1991, he declared a Confederate month without any acknowledgement of Blacks' contribution, he hung a noose in his office, he had (has) an affection for the Confederacy despite being from Southern California, he called a University of Virginia student a racial slur on tape, he voted to cut funding for financial aid which disproportionately affects minorities and we have five independent sources telling us he used the word "nigger" (one as late the 1990s).  Like I said I can understand you supporting neither candidate but Allen? 

  You may bring up the HBCU funding, but that's not as stunning as it seems.  Let's put aside the discrepant reports about whether Allen really is committed to HBCU funding and talk about other things for a moment.  Say he was committed to seeing blacks excel in higher education then answer the following questions: 

Why not instead use that money to fund minority scholarships so they can go wherever they wanted, not just HBCUs? 

Why not give that money to Virginia colleges to strengthen their diversity programs so that schools truly become integrated? 

Why not appropriate that money to inter city high schools so the students can increase their performance and be more competitive for top schools? 

Why not give that money to after school programs in impoverished neighborhoods, so again they could more resources to help them succeed at top colleges regardless of HBCU status?

Why did he vote to cut student aid and loans that disproportionately affects minority students? 

If Allen can answer these questions then I would be persuaded that he is committed to improving Blacks economic and educational standing.  Otherwise he recent actions show me that he is more concerned with separate but equal.



I was going to troll rate you. (phriendlyjaime - 9/28/2006 11:47:56 AM)
But I am not, bc the responses to you are golden.  You just jump on and whine, and we provide you with facts and evidence.  I'm giving you a decent rating just to keep your silly comment public.  It makes you look pathetic.

You're a crybaby, which means you must be part of the A-Team

Cue your alter ego, "4theGipper", in 3...2...1...



Webb may not be an angel, but....... (Used2Bneutral - 9/28/2006 11:57:54 AM)
BA,
To do the things Webb has accomplished the way he has done them leaves a very significant signature about his character.  Having also spent time at a service academy (USAFA), just by attending and surviving the first year, your life is changed…. Some people much more than others.  But for him to have done the courageous things Webb has done with his life, besides the medals from the war, shows what makes him tick inside. When I first met him last March shook his and talked at a party for Gerry Connelly, Jim Webb struck me as a very laid back and almost “Shy” person until you hit a hot button…. When he speaks to you and looks you straight in the eye as he ALWAYS does, you will understand that this man still lives the “Honor System” that is instilled in every military academy attendee.  Not everybody is capable of carrying that beyond the limits of the service, but you can’t help but feel the integrity and honesty he exudes in person. 

I constantly have people tell me that the first time they hear him speak, his delivery is just not polished….. ALWAYS the second time or more they hear him, they say how he has improved and continues to improve….. its all relative…. He will never be the “random” speech generator that Allen now is…. Webb can not babble, each word he says strikes home….. Although his humor is so dry, when it finally leaks out every so often it is such a stark departure from his normal pattern that it is noticed immediately.

Your comments about the paid staffers being the cornerstone to this “liberal” assault are completely distorted from the truth…..I know for a fact that over 95% of the people posting for Webb on this blog and the other key sites, do it because they believe into their very soul that Webb is the right person and definitely NOT Allen. Even those on these blogs that get paid are all but volunteers being paid a stipend that is less than one half to one third what they can and have been paid in a non-campaign positions in the real world.  You can’t do the job they have done and do everyday unless you believe to your very fiber in the candidate they represent.

Webb is not a blatant liberal, infact the words that in my mind best describe his position is “centrist” progressive…. Just enough conservative values to be grounded in reality and progressive enough to protect the values, interests and rights of all Americans from the ultra right religious assault from the likes of Katherine Harris, Carl Rove, Grover Norquist etc.

Last year I volunteered and helped on several campaigns that the poles all showed at this point to be close but definitely significantly favoring the Republicans.  In every case although the final vote counts were close.  Almost ALL the democrats won by reasonable margins in November.  The 72 hour GoTV plan we have heard so much about for years from the Republicans was and will be at least duplicated again this year by the Democrats like we did last year… The election will be won by hard work and honesty, not by slander, slime, and lies which may have worked a few years ago, but not again this year…. The public is sooo sensitive since the Bush distortions that they may actually “Think” hard again this year and vote with their heads and their hearts for the Democrats generally…



Great topic sentence over at RedState (PM - 9/28/2006 10:27:12 AM)
"I am of the strong belief that Senator Allen could end this brouhaha once and for all by taking the bull by the horns and facing it aggressively."

A neutered bull.  Haha.



Jim Webb's offer of a series of debates ON THE ISSUES still stands. Why does George Allen refuse to participate? (Ken C. - 9/28/2006 11:04:20 AM)
Jim Webb's offer of a series of debates ON THE ISSUES still stands.  Why does George Allen refuse to participate?

Lowell, the answer seems obvious:
a) He wishes to avoid yet another ass whipping by Jim.
and,
b) He wishes to avoid yet another public gaffe.

Allen's public gaffe problem seems to boil down to a fairly simple theory; he is unable to control his obsession for "playing to the crowd" ("macaca" and "being Jewish") for short term gain (getting the crowd to hoot and holler with delight-"macaca" or boo and hiss the debate question on "being Jewish") at the expense of greater damage coming from the incident later. Such behavior seems to expose serious issues of basic immaturity and obvious poor judgment.  We have seen enough of that out of the GOP “top dog” Bush; “bring em on”, etc. Virginia and the nation deserve better.  Let’s start the betterment of our state and country on November 7th by electing “Leadership we can be proud of”; Jim Webb.  That sure beats Allen, “a senator we are ashamed of”. 



Oh what a shock, Democrats have grown a spine and (demnan - 9/28/2006 12:03:07 PM)
we're fighting back.  Awww, poor little Republicans, never could stand a fair playing field could ya', ya' little rich white boy racist sexist bullies!!!!!!!

Even Clinton mentioned Webb duing his ass whupping of Fox-whore Chris Wallace.

We're Born Fighting!  Put that in your (penis substutitute)gun and smoke it!



Mr Shear has it wrong. (snolan - 9/29/2006 10:36:03 AM)
Webb has been very careful to stick to the issues and not get personal.  He should be commended on that.

Allen's TV commercials have been personal attacks, deliberate mis-truths and outright lies - and those are only the ones I have seen on News8 in the morning.  I ignore Allen's campaign site because I know it's pure bull-feathers.

Webb's site, and very limited television and internet ads are very positive, on the issues, and on his own biography and skills.  For Shear to say that the candidates are attacking each other is not really the whole truth.

We partisan supporters on both sides have been downright ugly in this race - frankly I am not ashamed of that at all; though I think we are getting close to getting out of hand.  We have been justified in trying to wake up our sleepy and apathetic electorate the the realities that they are responsible for.  Having said that, I think we should focus on Allen's mistakes as a Senator from here until he is out of office.

We now know he's a racist and a bully.  I think those people who measure those facts into their decision have heard about it or can read about it in the press now.

Perhaps a little more needs to be said about Allen's mistreatment of women (if there are factual stories - as I suspect), but aside from that I really think we need to stay focused on the issues and Senator Allen's voting record.

Let's start a project to document every one of Allen's offensive and hurtful votes and publish it.