Josh Marshall asks the relevant questions

By: Rob
Published On: 9/20/2006 9:00:00 AM

Allen and his online buddies are kicking up a lot of dust, but Josh Marshall cuts through to the obvious point:

From Sen. Allen's statement on his campaign website ...

Yesterday, I found it especially reprehensible that a reporter would impugn the attitudes of my mother, as Ms. Peggy Fox did in her first question at the Fairfax County Chamber of Commerce Senate debate. My mother and father both taught me to abhor bigotry, and Ms. FoxGÇÖs suggestion to the contrary was deeply offensive.

Here's the question Fox asked: "It has been reported ... your grandfather Felix, whom you were given your middle name for, was Jewish. Could you please tell us whether your forebears include Jews and, if so, at which point Jewish identity might have ended?"

Is that reprehensible? Is she impugning the mom's "attitudes"? She's asking him whether some of his parentage/ancestry is Jewish.

Now, Josh asks this about Allen's bizarre post-scandal statement.  But the same question applies to his as-the-scandal-unfolded statement that the question about his Jewish heritage was "making aspersions about people."

How did her question make "aspersions" (i.e., slander) about anyone?


Comments



RK should be off this issue (va.walter - 9/20/2006 9:22:09 AM)
It isn't gonna cost Allen any votes and has the potential to cause problems.  It's obvious that what Allen was mad about was the implication that his mom was racist and taught him racist terms (from the preceding question).  Everyone at the debate knew that's what he was talking about when he said aspersions.  The more we try to parse this and use it against Allen the more he's gonna come off as some kind of victim.  Don't let him play that card.  We now have him where we want him and it's time to beat him where it counts.


Mostly agree (Eric - 9/20/2006 10:28:04 AM)
with you that we, the entire blogosphere, shouldn't make too much of this non-issue.  It's not part of the debate.

How Allen responded is part of the debate.  The anger, intimidation, and inciting the crowd is part of an ongoing pattern.  That pattern IS George Allen and this incident serves as another reminder of who and what he really is.  And I'm not talking about religion.



What is it with the skirt monkeys (Bubby - 9/20/2006 9:22:33 AM)
First it was "you are being disrespectful to Nancy Reagan", and now "you are being disrespectful to my mom".  Are there any real men on the A-Team?  You know the kind that do their own scrapping. 

Get out from behind your mom's skirt George.  We got questions that need answers from YOU.



I think its time to (Adam Malle - 9/20/2006 9:58:09 AM)
Move on to the relevant topics discussed in the debates. I couldn’t care less if Allen or any of his family is/was a Jew. Lets talk about Allen’s complete disregard for the medical community on stem cell research, his obvious lack of understanding of handling Iraq, and his unwavering opposition to organized labor. These are the important issues of the debate not weather Allen is a Jew or not.


As a Jewish American I call on Sen Allen to denounce the CofCC (Jeff B - 9/20/2006 10:11:40 AM)
for their radical racial and ethnic beliefs. As a Jewish American I am proud and happy Sen Allen has acknowledged his "new found" Jewish heritage.

Now is the time for Sen Allen to denounce the ethnic and racial beliefs of the CofCC with the same anger and passion we saw directed towards Peggy Fox in that 2nd debate. Nothing less will be a slap in the face of his Jewish grandparent who suffered so dearly at the hands of the Nazis.

We welcome Sen Allen with open arms to the Jewish faith. in the end we are all God's children.



It's about honesty (cvllelaw - 9/20/2006 2:42:59 PM)
George Allen told the press yesterday that he only recently became aware that his mother's father was Jewish.  From his press release yesterday:

“I was raised as a Christian and my mother was raised as a Christian. And I embrace and take great pride in every aspect of my diverse heritage, including my Lumbroso family line’s Jewish heritage, which I learned about from a recent magazine article and my mother confirmed,” Allen said in the statement.

http://www.forward.c...

Well, at least he is willing on Tuesday to acknowledge what he had refused to acknowledge on Monday.  End of story, right?

Wrong.

Folks in the Charlottesville area have known for years that George's grandfather was Jewish -- he told them.  He did not "learn of the fact from a recent magazine article."  According to an article in the Daily Progress printed on October 26, 2003, Daily Progress political reporter Bob Gibson asked Allen about whether his Jewish heritage was playing any part in the zeal with which his Senate subcommittee was investigating anti-Semitism.  Allen responded that he knew that his grandfather was Jewish, and he was proud of that heritage, and because of his mother's and grandfather's experiences during World War II, he was particularly sensitive to allegations of religious intolerance.  In the article, Gibson talked about his mother having been raised in a Jewish family, or some such vague language.  On October 28, 2003, Allen's press secretary called up and demanded a correction, so the next day the Daily Progress ran a "correction" that clarified that George's mother had been raised a Christian.

None of this really matters, except that it exposes the price that politicians pay when they try to be all things to all people.  When Allen wants to play up his ties to the conservative/racist past, he hangs the Confederate flag and a noose in his office and meets with the Council of Conservative Citizens -- people who would be appalled at the notion of supporting someone who might be Jewish.  When he wants to court big donors and national political types, he loses the Confederate flag and the noose and denies the Jewish connection.

What's wrong with having a Jewish ancestor?  Nothing.
What's wrong with denying what you know to be true?  Everything.
What's wrong with being a faithful Christian?  Nothing.
What's wrong with lying on Monday and telling a different lie on Tuesday to spin his way out of the first lie?  Everything.



Allen just claimed on Fox News (Jeff B - 9/20/2006 5:12:51 PM)
he only found out his Grandfather was a Jew 2 weeks ago. Who is telling the truth Bob Gibson in 2003 or George Allen in 2006? Like Peggy fox said its about honesty not about who is Jewish.


Slight correction (cvllelaw - 9/20/2006 10:10:53 PM)
That should have read,

"When he wants to court big donors and national political types, he loses the Confederate flag and the noose and **admits** the Jewish connection."