Perhaps after Joe is soundly trounced on Tuesday reality will sink in and he'll crawl back under his rock.  If he doesn't he will demonstrate to the Party and to Connecticut that Joe is all about Joe.  Personally I think LIEberman is going to be beaten so soundly that even a blind Joe could read the handwriting on the wall and he'll begin making plans for being a highly-paid conservative lobbyist on K street - where he belongs. 

Great to see Kaine weighing, but I like Senator Christopher Dodd's (D-Conn) comment in the Post too:

"It is a MISTAKE to contend, as the Republicans are doing, that the Democrats have been captured by left-wing, anti-war activists, saying the Connecticut race most of all reflects discontent with Bush rather than an ideological awakening."

Very true.

Also further on in the Post article--toward the end Borosage(GOP) indicates the Dems better be careful because the GOP have been successful in making the Dems seem weak--which in the past has been true. I think this time around things will be different--Americans will see through all the Rove fear strategy. Of course the Dems have to stand up and show we can be bad asses too. But for Gods sake don't ride in a tank!! The big problem with this issue is that most media have bought into the GOP's assertions that the Dems are weak on National Security. The media needs to be educated otherwise!!

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Before we prognosticate and pontificate I think it behooves us to see, if Lieberman does lose to Lamont in the primary, exactly what the margin of victory and the level of turnout is.  If Lieberman loses by a wide margin and there is a respectable turnout (the recent VA primary turnout was PATHETIC!) then we'll be better able to judge what such a loss by an incumbent Senator to a primary challenger tells us about the mood of the electorate.  I do agree with Tim Kaine that if Lieberman loses, as he is projected to do, and if he retains any loyalty to the Democratic party he should drop his plan to run as an Independent.  That could cost us a seat in the Senate by splitting the Democratic amd Independent vote.  But maybe Lieberman equates "Independent" as cutting himself loose from party ties.  We'll know more after Tuesday night.

Thanks teacherken, I stand corrected. My main point was that the dems don't have to be pegged as weak on defense. Thanks for your clarification.

I like seeing TK standing up for Joe.  Kaine, who is a self described conservative Dem, is very similar to Lieberman.  Lets go Joe!

what are you talking about.  Kaine is not standing up for Joe at all, he is telling him to respect the Democratic voters of CT and not run as an Independant if he looses.

Kaine was talking about WHEN Lieberman loses for supporting Bush's Fashist international policies. It's great to be bi partisian, but not when your supporting a facist leader like Bush....