You prove my underlying point.

Harris Miller and his campaign are so eager to push this issue, they've twisted arms across the media to get this story picked up, and now Miller's made the front page of the RTD.  congratulations.

Mark Fisher had this to say over at the Washington Post:

Obviously, the Webb folks deny any anti-Semitism, with good reason: It's a pretty big stretch to find anything anti-Jewish about the Webb flyer. The flyer is avowedly and crashingly anti-Miller, and it's a fun, populist piece, focusing on the obviously uncomfortable position Miller's lobbying work has put him in as he now tries to persuade Virginians that he's somehow a man of the people.

But anti-Semitic? First of all, until the Miller campaign started to make noise about this flyer, hardly a soul in Virginia knew that Harris Miller is Jewish. And there was no sign that anyone cared. Second, I showed the flyer to 22 Jews and not a single one saw anything remotely wrong with it. Only after I prompted them did people see the exaggerated nose, but since not a one of them knew what Miller really looks like, no one could tell whether this was a fair caricature or not. Well, it is.

Miller chose and foisted the description of his characerature as "hook nosed".  Miller's people called every paper to get them to perceive it as anti-Semitic.

I can PERSONALLY attest that this was an axe to grind that Harris Miller has been harboring since before Jim Webb even entered the race.

That image was traced from pictures of Harris Miller.  Miller is a rich lobbyist who has made his wealth by busting unions and crushing wages for working people across America.  If an accurate, truthful representation is insulting, who's fault is that?  Is it Jim Webb's fault that Harris Miller looks the way he does? 

Is it Jim Webb's fault that Harris Miller is a champion of the forces that have robbed working America of their ability to compete in the global marketplace?  That he's a fatcat, lobbyist?

Jim Webb apologized to anyone who was offended by the flyer.  And to anyone who is offended by the truth, I apologize as well.

While we're quoting I'll just leave off with Larry Sabato's take:

"I think that's a real stretch to call that anti-Semitic, and I'm not usually inclined to give candidates the benefit of the doubt"

What's rational about this smear?

a well deserved troll rating.

How convenient that this stafford blog just happened to be created in time to print an exhaustive analysis of the Webb flyer to drive down the vote.

lovely

Harris Miller must be very proud.  I wonder if this guy is actually paid by Miller.  In fact, Dem4, are you?

between a cartoon that actually looks like a fair representation of Harris Miller in comic form and a Caricature that accentuates features to an extreme to give the subject a farcical or degrading appearance. 

Anyone who looks at the Harris Miller cartoon will see that nothing has been accentuated, but it is a rather accurate representation of the man.

The NAZI propaganda on the otherhand, is made of images that resemble no one.  They are, in every sense, characetures.  They show very distorted features as do not exist in nature.

Conclusion: NAZIs and Miller claims- Much ado about nothing... (except him trying to win an election in a dirty way.) 

It is Miller's lies and such distortions that will turn off a large portion of the electorate to Miller during this and any future election cycle.

Someone in the mainstream media printed that Harris Miller is "slender and bespectacled."  Now that is clearly a half-truth.  Where was the outrage?  And where was the outrage when other MSM outlets said he was roly poly or pudgy?

We have first-hand testimony from people who heard Miller say that he hoped that he could use the charge of anti-semitism against Allen. So, we know now that Miller was primed to use this accusation as a political tactic.

We saw how Miller surrogates and Allen supporters jumped all over the statement that some viewed Miller as the "anti-Christ" because of his advocacy for offshore outsourcing of American jobs and importation of foreign replacement workers (H-1b and L-1 visa workers). The term was used in a non-hostile IT magazine interview with Miller by a technology issues journalist who was never accused of "anti-semitism"!  Though "anti-christ" has no religious or secular connection to being Jewish, the Miller proxies and Allen supporter engaged in a scandalous campaign of disinformation accusing Webb of "jew-baiting" and "anti-semitism". This was the foreshadowing to the present charge now gleefully made by Miller and his proxies.

Now, along comes a cartoon which bears a tremendous likeness to a real photograph of Miller and again we hear the charge of "anti-semitism" AGAIN. Is it that the cartoon is not sufficiently flattering to the physical appearance of Harris Miller? Objectively, does the image not look at all like Miller? Is it really a gross distortion? No. The image is not a radical departure from the true physical appearance of Miller.

And don't pull this crap of comparing the recent Miller 'toon to nazi era propaganda pics. I've seen many examples of the Nazi cartoons attacking Jews. The recent 'toon of Miller is NOT even close to the example you cite or the many more savage illustrations used by the Nazis.

Even making such a comparison shows the depths to which Miller and Miller's supporters have sunk. Debasing the memory of Jewish suffering in the Holocaust and attempting to use the persecution and annihilation of the Jewish people as a club against Webb defiles the suffering of the Jewish people and blurs the reality of what real anti-semitism is.

SHAME! SHAME! SHAME ON HARRIS MILLER and HIS PROPAGANDISTS!

If there was even a shred of evidence that Webb was an anti-semite, I doubt very much that Chuck Schumer would support Jim Webb over Harris Miller. 

I hardly consider the opinions of these so-called "experts" definitive. They have academic titles and opinions. I have no idea if these people have ties to Miller or merely offering views with which I disagree.

You fail to deal with clear evidence that Miller and his proxies take issues of racism and anti-semitism lightly -- that they view such charges as effective political tactics to achieve political victory. The pattern of baseless accusations is apparent. Of course, pointing out this pattern is characterised as a mere "rant" by Miller surrogates.

 

This is a very common logical fallacy: appeal to authority (your "experts.").  But I'm glad that you cited their respective fields of tangential expertise.  Actually, it's slightly unsettling that someone in political marketing would not have looked at this situation more carefully.

And we have discussed the fact that those experts spend all day looking at Nazi propaganda.  Maybe they failed look at a picture of Harris Miller first.  Who knows.

Nice job.

You've created your own blog.

When he says he hopes to keep his (anti labor, pro outsourcing, anti voter) background out of the race.

"a loyal democrat your entire life?"

Sorry, no kool aid for me this morning.

Raising Kaine readers don't get their jollies by reading Nazi cartoons.

You have six - count them - six imperatives in that short comment of yours.

Miller supporters and/ or Republican diehards tried to conflate the flier with right wing apocalyptic literature.  Then they searched Chick tracts with the hopes of finding caricatures that resemble the characters in the flier. Then they pored over Nazi propaganda literature.

Newsflash.  If you want to find a resemblance, look at a photo of Harris Miller.

This is not just dirty politics anymore.  It's sick.

These are not empty allegations but based upon the text copy I saved from the retracted dailykos diary yesterday that inflamed everyone.

Now here is something really outrageous.  You know how Miller gives platitudes about "retraining" workers?

  [Jones County Junior College] received $500,000 of a $2.5 million of a High Growth Job Training Initiative grant and $1.1 million of a $4.6 million Pathways to Construction grant . . . The college will use the H1B grant to train individuals in food service industries like restaurants and casinos . .

Miller's ill crafted offshore outsourcing, insourcing and trade policies have displaced people with Bachelors, Masters and PhDs, especially in the areas of engineering and science.

So this is his retraining plan, to retrain someone with this level of expertise and education to be a "restaurant worker".

Now that is obscene and most certainly discriminatory.

It's become all but heretical to address the real issues, the real problems and the real solutions that are relevant.

Too bad. I've always wondered if we would have the guts to take on the problems that we're facing as a nation.  Because it isn't interesting or exciting.  And it sure as hell is not a silly cartoon.

"Education-Retraining = Middle Class Jobs Myth"

Why on earth would an intelligent American choose a career in math and science? They [i.e., "Americans"] have a right to act in their own best interest

and here

Corporate lobbyists have purchased fraudulent studies from economists that claim offshoring results in more US employment rather than less. The same lobbyists have spread disinformation that the US does not graduate enough engineers and that they must import foreigners on work visas.

and here

In fact, we find that American students are avoiding fields considered “high tech” for fear of offshore outsourcing job loss – declining job opportunities. We find American workers leaving IT when possible because of offshore outsourcing and use of imported replacement workers. We find cases of underemployed and uncounted unemployed IT workers. Harris Miller should be held to account for this.

We now see that widening categories of white collar work are targeted for offshore outsourcing and NIV worker replacement using the model implemented by Miller’s ITAA corporate friends. The idea that training, retraining and education is the “solution” to the “cut throat” economic disaster unleashed on American middle class workers is absurd – a grotesque and despicable lie.

The reason why Harris Miller has occassionally been characterised as the “anti-christ” by IT workers is because he has been the “point man” for corporations anxious to use any means available to axe their more costly American workforce and replace them with cheap labor from nations such as China and India. Lies, distortions, phony "studies" and massive lobbying efforts aimed at politicians and the media have all been part of Miller's amazing bag of tricks in his long tenure as a hired gun for the pro-outsourcing "tech lobby".

It's tremendously hypocritical for the man so greatly responsible for the declining American middle class "information age" jobs to now spin lies about solving the problems he has done so much to create. Harris Miller is incredible; he is beyond belief.

I'd say claiming their is a "shortage" in science and engineering, then firing those very scientists and engineers, taking a $500k grant and retraining that expertise to say "do you want fries with that" is the ultimate inflammatory and disgusting agenda I have seen in a long time.

This guy is just out of tricks.

The ITAA pushed through legislation and H-1B Visa increases, tax incentives for offshore outsourcing on a series of lies in so many words.

Miller has years of experience in public relations (propaganda) and knows how to use race as a weapon.

I find this tactic of his particularly odious because it's a complete lie.

Trying to place the race card on bringing in more foreign labor (which is predominately male) and then turning around and displacing women, people of color, Hispanics and most common of all, age discriminate is positively disgusting.

The Miller camp needs to distract from the fact that the flyer shows that (to borrow Info_Tech_Guy's signature ) 'Harris Miller DESTROYS American jobs and ruins lives'

And the RTD is complicit in publishing the cartoon and photoshopping to remove the factual information.

It wouldn't get into the RTD in time for the primary but the lack of journalistic integrity in doctoring the flyer to remove the quote citations and content (while retaining the purported 'offensive' part) and publishing it is appalling.

write LTE's information to any "website" publisher or any other about Miller's race card strategy and how he's an offshore outsourcing and insourcing labor arbitrage nightmare to other papers/newsfeeds that will publish before the primary.

Make sure they are carrying the article though, no point in helping Miller out.

That's his game, he spreads that sound byte/headline across the Media space.

I find it amazing and sad, but people are more influenced by sound bytes that one could possibly imagine and that's the game here by Miller.

Counter with "Virginia Primary Candidate Offshore Outsoucer Lobbyist Tries to Create Media Storm with False Accusation"

or some sort of sound byte/headline along those lines.
We need the same thing to happen that he did, which was to get a one line sentence implying Webb is ****** but against Miller.

That's the trick and the ITAA uses it very well, they create a 1 line sentence and it's blasted so much in the Media people believe that one line sentence..
same technique in advertising (McDonald's crappy food will make you loved and happy)

Has nothing to do with actual "reasoning brain" it's "primitive brain" response they are after.

I agree that the cartoon was a blunder. Why does the Webb campaign need to stoop to this? They played right into Miller's hands. Geeez...

What happens when you see your campaign heading down the sinkhole? You get desperate and try to fling as much mud as you can and hope something sticks.

The Webb campaign underestimated how low Miller would stoop to win an election. Unfortunately, they are learning it the hard way. In the end, they are going to be more than prepared ahead of time for Allen and his bag of tricks.

The cartoon was far too silly and amateurish.  I thought it was funny, but then I have a weird sense of humor and don't mind high school artwork.

The idea of a cartoon is ok, but they should have screened the cartoon with those of US who know Miller well, we could have told them Miller would use the race card as a strategy and screened the cartoon for any possible way to manipulate the drawing to claim some sort of thing like that.

We know Miller's game.  So the mistake was not screening it and changing the content with this in mind.

The idea of a satire cartoon and funny campaign ads I think is great. 

Lighten up people,  Bernie Sanders in VT has done some very good stuff along these lines and he's a socialist and he's going to be a Senator. 

Having a sense of humor does not hurt a campaign generally it helps it.

Godwin's Law : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

Same political tactic has been used on the Senate floor even.

(Background: "Thomas Paine Patriot" (aka "TPP") is the handle used by an annoying poster; he was banned but came back as "VADem4Ever".  He poses as a high school fan of serious underdog politician Harris Miller, though he is more likely to be a struggling college student or recent dropout working or volunteering for the conservative Republican George Allen campaign. He desperately needs a girlfriend  willing to dedicate herself to a major project, though this appears unlikely to happen soon.)

TPP's Law: The amount of time after TPP joins a discussion it takes to make a comparision involving the Nazis or Hitler approaches zero.

I'm still working on "Miller's Law", can anybody help me out?

Time to convince the American people of a lie:

((1 Sentence lie that sounds catchy)*(media blast to 300 newspapers and inside Media pals)*(news cache & RSS feeds of major news websites))/(number of Senators to say catchy lie in news programs & on Senate floor) = lie believed.

Ex. of 1 Sentence catchy lie:
"Tech worker Shortage"
"American needs to be competitive"
"Americans can't do Math and Science"
"Jobs Americans won't do"
"Jobs Americans can't do"
"Outsourcing is Good for America"
"H-1B Visas give opportunity"

Who says Americans can't do math.

We see the numbers add up real quick.

Isn't your time better spent in the Miller Campaign HQ? You are not winning anyone here.

Just go away and stop trolling this blog.

Are you following your psychiatrist's prescription regimine?  Are you skipping pills?  Doubling or tripling the dose?

Trolling, defined, is not simply disagreeing with your opinion or the collective site opinion. It is engaging in behavior which is directly contrary to the stated goals of the site -- furthering the progressive Democratic agenda. There are a number of things which very clearly constitute "trolling", and which should be troll rated (and therefore deleted from the conversation) quite legitimately.

"Democrates suk" or any of the other derivations of true trolling by those of enfeebled brain. Don't argue, just zap them. More on this in a bit.
Advertisements or other thread spamming. Zero them out. Especially if a user is posting the same comment to multiple threads. The cause may be just; the behavior isn't.
Off-topic posts. There's entire threads devoted to being off-topic: the Open Threads. In other conversations, it is rude to interrupt a diary or story conversation with your own unrelated "threadjacking".
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Attempting to "out" the personal information of other site users. This isn't just trolling, but is expressly forbidden and will almost certainly result in immediate banning.
What all these things have in common is that they represent content that is irrelevant to the thread, or intentionally disruptive of the goals of the conversation, or seek to poison the atmosphere in which conversation can take place at all. That is trolling.

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The first three kinds are easy enough to deal with. The fourth is more pesky and more irritating, since they won't take the hint that if they're really so far left that they think Howard Dean and Al Gore are fascists, we don't want them here, and there are other sites that would welcome them more openly, and good luck with that.

There is also a fifth kind of troll: the simple asshole. It doesn't matter how pure your motives are, if you can't get along with other users, you're not doing yourself, them, the site, or anything else any good. 90% of all trolls are banned because of their behaviors towards other users, not because of their opinions.

I am not a Webb campaign insider and I am not young. For starters, it is inappropriate to use discriminatory agist language at any time, but particularly here, given the sweeping strokes of discrimination and bigotry that have formed the core of Miller's campaign strategy from the start.  And in typical Miller fashion an inversion spin is underway here.

Harris Miller has betrayed Democratic principles from day one. This is well-documented. If you need to mischaracterize  expressions that you see on this blog of anger and outrage at Miller's deliberately divisive back-door strategies and overt lies an attack, then don't expect others to own such a strange personal problem. 

The truth is that Miller has used divisive politics from day one. Many of us find that highly offensive. Not only has he worked to destroy jobs in the US, he continues to destroy the multicultural and inclusive work done by thousands upon thousands of Virginians who genuinely care about equality and inclusiveness and have worked for it for years. You are talking about damaging and insulting those who have performed literally millions of hours of priceless work.

Harris Miller's deplorable history is his responsibility. Unfortunately for him, he rubs salt into wounds by having the unmitigated gall to ask people to vote for him. 

Is it ruthless to note the divisions that Miller caused in FCDC when he himself  called the paper most of the time?  (Except for that time he answered the phone and said he wasn't home after being outed for taking a loan under ugly circumstances on behalf of the FCDC.)  Can we not expect that's the kind of "uniter" he will be in the future?

Is it unfair to talk about Harris Miller's role in circumventing affirmative action amendments on his precious H1-B visa cap raising bills?  And is it ruthless to note that he turns around and accuses someone who insisted that Afro-Americans have representation in the war memorial statue of racial unfairness?

Are we supposed to keep it a secret that he talked with reporters during an critical election season for Democrats about the IT industry reaching out to Republicans and that they were reaching back? Especially when he has been pointing a finger at Webb as having Republican ties?

Is it ruthless to discuss how he and Grover Norquist gave suggestions as to how the Republican party could increase its numbers among the IT demographic?  And is this not of particular concern when he is pointing a finger at Webb as having Republican ties?

Is it unfair to point out how Miller contributed to Republicans both openly and rather stealthily through his PAC?  And yet again, especially when he is pointing a finger at Webb as having Republican ties?

Please consider educating yourself on Harris Miller's anti-Democratic activities.  They are very well documented because the guy called the press just about every time he managed to tie his shoes successfully.  You can go read the very informative diaries on raisingkaine for starters.  Then go to your library to verify those sources which are referenced. 

Then with facts in hand, we'll be able to have a reasonable conversation. Because the Miller campaign has not bothered to explain most of those issues, although Miller has said he was being a big boy when giving to Republicans.  Miller's team members don't feel like talking about real issues and real history, and they have been too busy inventing issues.  Or they have been studying Nazi cartoons.

And let's not forget electronic voting.

In a nutshell, if you are committed enough to inform yourself on the complexities of the real world issues, and then we'll talk about your cartoon concerns.

Personal attacks are never productive.

And actually, my phone call was quite mature and not an attack.  I saved my anger for here.

Do me a favor-Kathy et al, down rate the comment I made about Tyler, please?

I'd like to forget about my rage.  :)

He is over there posting anonymously, acting like a Webb supporter all scared bc of all the "great info" on that lame blog he started last night.

What a tool.

Political parody is a venerable and well-respected art. And that cartoon was simply political parody. Doonsbury creator, Gary Trudeau, has parodied Clinton, Gore, Bush, and even the late Hunter Thompson in his cartoon strip. If he was to parody Miller, would Miller accuse him of anti-semitism too?

I've seen real Nazi anti-semitic propaganda. The big difference is that the pictures are not of specific individuals. They are templates or stereotypes that are supposed to represent a "typical Jewish look."

When those so called academic experts were given the picture to comment on, were they also given a picture of Miller?

Miller looks Jewish. And the cartoon artist was parodying Miller. So, I'm going to raise an unpleasant question. Do some of those, who are raising the objection to this likeness of Miller, actually have objections to Jewish looking people? Might they actually harbor - albeit unconsciously - anti-semitic attitudes themselves?

The problem for me is that I don't find the cartoon offensive because, as a Jew, I like Jewish looking people fine. I also recognize a parody aimed at a specific individual. So I don't seen anti-semitism here.

On the other hand, if Miller has a problem with the cartoon, which does look like him, I'd suggest cosmetic surgery. Though I personally think that would be a shame for him to consider because I like his looks.

I don't like his positions on outsourcing or his playing the "anti-semite" card though.

I think he needs to get a more positive message more than a nose job. And the Miller campaign needs to get off this ridiculous and diversionary topic.

If Miller were Buddhist, I'd hate him.
If Miller were Taoist, I'd hate him.
If Miller were Muslim, I'd hate him.
If Miller were Atheist, I'd hate him.
If Miller were Wiccan, I'd hate him.
If Miller were Christian, I'd hate him.
If Miller were Zoroastrian, I'd hate him.
If Miller were Hindu, I'd hate him.
If Miller were Scientologist, I'd hate him.

I think I've made my point.

Thank you.

Miller were a vegetarian?  Would you hate him?  :-)

"At least he is a Democrat"

If that is the best reason Democrats have for supporting Harris Miller, I will personally make sure labor activists across the country pour money into the Allen campaign should Miller win the primaries.

Make sure your "big-D" friends know that if they support Harris Miller they have declared WAR on workers across the counry and we will respond in kind.

And I AM a Democrat.  Harris Miller could change that for me and many more people in this country.  If these voters forget about OUR NATION and focus on TRUMPED UP and completely BS charges they will get a reminder very soon as to why Democrats aren't getting elected.

If you are going to take that seat back from Allen, your ONLY hope is Jim Webb.  After one term of Harris Miller (which he will never get) Virginia will be solidly Republican for 100 years.  The ONLY good that may come from Harris Miller winning is that it will be a rallying point for American workers.  We would all rally against him - he is a lightning rod to us.

A vote for Miller IS a vote for Allen.  You can't imagine what will be on the bumper stickers all over VA should Miller win.

this is what the netroots is about.  We want our party back, representing the people and not the corporate agenda.

Although I get down on Democrats - because I am one and am idealistic about what it means to be one - I am very proud of the majority of Democrats and netroots activists on RK.

Honestly, the only reason I came here was my opposition towards Harris Miller.  But after reading this blog and diaries the past month or so, I feel much better about being a Democrat.

I think there are a few wingnuts who forget about what is most important to Americans.  I can assure you, it isn't these wedge issues.  Both parties play the wedge issues at a high cost to Americans (seen in the recent attempt to ban gay marriage in the Constitution).  I have even been caught up in them myself (like today, for example).

The future of our nation should not be decided on wedge issues, trumped up charges, and so forth.

I don't want to turn this into a speech - so back to what I really wanted to pont out: I think THIS forum is what Democracy is suppose to be like.  I am glad that people from across the state of VA and even across the country have used this forum as a tool to make decisions that will impact them and their families in the years to come.

Not matter what happens next week, it brings me joy that netroots activists like you exist and work hard for what you believe in.  In short, good job everyone. 

See if that changes their mind.  If not,t hen why are they Democrats?

Do you understand how small of a % of the work forces comes into contact with any sort of Union. 

This might blow your mind, but there are many reasons to be a Democrat.

for a Democrat to be against unions is something I will simply not abide.  And I bet those primary voters won't either, once they know it.  I'm not in a union, but every Democrat should support them.

to be affected by outsourcing and offshoring.  And what other group shall we ignore because of low percentages?

Miller supports free trade, written by corporations which the results are now in are creating a massive deficit.
Add to that the budget deficit and we may be in big trouble.

Miller wants offshore outsourcing, which is decimating the middle class.
These are not union jobs, they are professional jobs..
THEIR JOB.  Lawyers, Doctors, Nurses, Scientists, Engineers, Radiologists you name it is up for auction on the labor arbitrage auction block.

This is NO JOKE and Democrats need to be made aware of what they are voting on...

if they vote for Miller they are voting for corporate interests and economic policies that could bring down the United States.

So, I suppose you think a Republican controlled congress is going to be real friendly to labor.  I bet an Allen presidency  would be too. 

Me I'd rather have or disagreements within the caucus instead of bringing the whole tent on our heads.  You know have Dems be the chairs of the committees, have Dems control the floor, things like that. 

  But, hey with all these exploding heads, who can think clearly.

I suppose there is a reason labor has been becoming a weaker and weaker political force. 

Oh well, again.

we want Webb to win, is because we don't want Allen to be Senator anymore!
Miller is a divider, Webb a uniter.

they are both dividers, its a primary. and its a nasty one at that.  both sides are to blame. don't fool yourself.

I'll vote for Miller if he's the nominee.  I really hope it won't come to that but I'll do it.

That having been said, I don't think Miller can beat Allen.  Name a constituency that voted Allen in 2000 that would defect to Miller.  I can't think of one.  I expect Miller would get 40% maybe, and if he got over 45%, I'd be astounded.

So yeah, I have a beef with Miller's anti-labor stances.  But frankly, I think he's a sucky candidate, and I'd think so even if he wasn't anti-labor.  The man has half the charisma of Dukakis, and there's no way he'll attract any exurban or rural votes.

Webb has the most potential, but he has not been the best ether.

But his resume gets him halfway there.

But as far as I'm aware, we can't dig up the remains of FDR to run, hehe.

You can fix a bad campaign, you cannot fix a bad candidate...

It's unconscionable that anyone would try to trade on the murder of six million jews for political advantage. That's implicitly what Miller is doing by implying there's a link to nazi-era anti-jewish propaganda evident in the 'toon attacking Miller's support for job outsourcing.

As Marc Fisher said on the WaPo blog, Miller has been pushing this line of BS for a week. It's a deliberate, calculated disinformation campaign like the ones he waged at the ITAA advancing the false claim of "labor shortages" which required more foreign workers in the U.S.

What Miller has done is utterly despicable... The memory of the holocaust is not some sort play-thing for unscrupulous politicians to misuse.