Huge News: DSCC Chairman Endorses Jim Webb!

By: Lowell
Published On: 6/7/2006 2:10:20 PM

More details to follow, but for now, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) has endorsed Jim Webb...

Sen. Schumer head of the DSCC, says that, with Jim Webb as our nominee:

..we have an opportunity to give George Allen a real run for his money. He's our best hope for defeating Allen in November. Jim's a real fighter. He has the experience, energy and commitment to make this a winnable race.

I couldn't have said it better myself; in fact, it sounds like the phone script I was reciting much of this afternoon. Thanks Sen. Schumer!


Comments



Press release (Corey - 6/7/2006 2:25:59 PM)
Schumer Supports Webb in Virginia Senate Primary

Calls Webb “Best Hope” for Defeating Allen

Senator Chuck Schumer today announced his support for the candidacy of Jim Webb in the Democratic primary for U.S. Senate in Virginia calling the veteran, author and former Naval Secretary the Democratic Party’s “best hope” for defeating George Allen in November.

“With Jim Webb as the Democratic nominee in Virginia we have an opportunity to give George Allen a real run for his money. He’s our best hope for defeating Allen in November,” said Schumer. “Jim’s a real fighter – He has the experience, energy and commitment to make this a winnable race. He’ll be devoted to serving the people of Virginia from day one.”

Webb has been endorsed by Minority Leader Harry Reid, Assistant Minority Leader Dick Durbin and Sen. Debbie Stabenow, among others.



I Would Like (Mark - 6/7/2006 3:02:07 PM)
to publicly thank Corey for standing up with me as Committee Chairs to endorse Jim Webb this week.

It takes some courage, especially if the committee is not totally on board with one candidate or another, I know that is my situation. It may be true for many of the ten who endorsed.

Anyway, thanks for this news, and Thanks Again Corey!!!

Mark Brooks



Link (Greg Bouchillon - 6/7/2006 2:27:49 PM)
What site is this on?


My quote is from a press release from the DSCC (Corey - 6/7/2006 2:30:37 PM)
My quote is from a press release from the DSCC.


REAP THE WHIRLWIND (Josh - 6/7/2006 2:29:46 PM)
Miller was warned.

Every powerful, national, and Virginia Democrat told him to stay positive, but he couldn't.

The DSCC NEVER endorses in primaries, but here you see Miller getting his just desserts.

Nationally and across the Commonwealth, the Democratic party wants Jim Webb.



YES YES AND YES (Nichole - 6/7/2006 2:35:41 PM)
He was warned and did not listen.

This is a great afternoon.

ONWARD



So why is Miller staying in the race? (thegools - 6/7/2006 2:39:53 PM)
This seems like a clear indication of what the leadership wants (along with what the grassroots/the people have wanted for months).  Who else is there?


Who else is there? (Lowell - 6/7/2006 2:44:15 PM)
Good question.


Now we wait for someone to publicly change sides (JC - 6/7/2006 2:47:09 PM)
I'm waiting for the first public mea culpa from someone explaining how they were wrong about Webb.


Schumer or DSCC? (Greg Bouchillon - 6/7/2006 2:29:48 PM)
Is this Schumer or the DSCC?


Yes. (Lowell - 6/7/2006 3:13:27 PM)
See below for more.  Schumer=DSCC.


Money? (Nichole - 6/7/2006 2:33:56 PM)
Can this help the campaign get any money???

This is great news!!!



Schumer IS the DSCC (ajacied - 6/7/2006 2:37:28 PM)
http://www.webbforsenate.com/press/060706_dscc.php


The Hits just keep on coming! (TurnVirginiaBlue - 6/7/2006 2:37:55 PM)
This is great and I'm so glad they are coming out and making a stand.

The age of "free trade" which has turned into a massive deficit plus the trading of people and labor arbitrage is finally being re-thought by Democrats.

Thank God!  It sounded great at the time but the results are proof positive that the policies controlled by multinational corporations who are not beholden to the national interest are not good for America.

Miller is a free traitor.  Miller believes in labor arbitrage.

Those are just not Democratic principles and most importantly will certainly lose in a Senatorial race because most people, blue, red, purple and some sort of weird green color, want this insanity stopped.



Yes, and I warned him too . . . (JC - 6/7/2006 2:44:41 PM)
I wish I'd had time to work on part 3 last night . . .


You'll never eat lunch in this town again! (Ken C. - 6/7/2006 2:48:41 PM)
Hey Harris,
You'll never eat lunch in this town again!!!!


Please (Kathy Gerber - 6/7/2006 3:20:29 PM)
write part 3 - it's an interesting story.


Yeah, I very much want to hear how it ends! (Lowell - 6/7/2006 3:22:24 PM)
Great story... :)


Actually... (Steven J. Berke - 6/7/2006 2:46:11 PM)
...I think you might want to reconsider the headline--it looks like this is a personal endorsement by Schumer (which is unheard of enough) rather than a formal organizational endorsement by the DSCC (which I'm not even sure is permitted).

Even so, this is quite dramatic--confirms that Miller did indeed break his word to Schumer...something Schumer was not going to take lying down.  Question is how much publicity will the MSM give this, and how much the Webb campaign can.



I'll be at a Webb fundraiser in two hours (JC - 6/7/2006 2:48:22 PM)
I wonder what the topic of conversation will be.


You'll be talking about - (Kathy Gerber - 6/7/2006 3:15:32 PM)
My birthday - which is today.
And this is a helluva present :)


Happy Birthday!!! (Loudoun County Dem - 6/7/2006 3:17:36 PM)
I hope your wish comes true...


yeeehhaaaahh (Kathy Gerber - 6/7/2006 3:21:16 PM)
Yes.


Happy Birthday (thegools - 6/7/2006 7:50:52 PM)


Good Questionwe (Corey - 6/7/2006 2:49:28 PM)
Good Question...the Webb press release is titled "Schumer endorses.." but Shumer's press release is on DSCC letter head.


and... (Corey - 6/7/2006 2:52:16 PM)
and the contact for the press release is Karl Frisch who is the DSCC press secretary.


That's as close as you're going to get to a DSCC endorsement (JC - 6/7/2006 2:55:41 PM)
The chairman of the DSCC endorses Webb on DSCC stationary and sends the DSCC press guy to deliver the news.

What else do you need; collectable DSCC commemorative Webb endorsement plates?



I talked to the Webb campaign.... (Lowell - 6/7/2006 3:12:55 PM)
and they say that this is a press release from the DSCC, written by the head of the DSCC.  If that's not the DSCC endorsing Jim Webb, what is?

Look, here's the deal:  the entire national Democratic Party wants Jim Webb to be the nominee here in Virginia.  They badly want to beat George Allen, as we all do, and they know that only Jim Webb can do that.  No offense to Harris Miller, but he simply can't do it.  And everyone knows it.  Period, end of story.



Agree (Info_Tech_Guy - 6/7/2006 4:53:39 PM)
The fact that Chuck Schumer is openly supporting Jim Webb is dramatic enough. I think that he's had enough of the scorched earth low blow attacks on Webb. He wants to WIN -- not watch a senseless scorched earth campaign against Webb and lose to Allen.


Change Press Release (Ken C. - 6/7/2006 2:57:12 PM)
The Press Release should at least read, "enator Chuck Schumer, Head of the DSCC endorses Jim"


Forgot the S too excited!!!! (Ken C. - 6/7/2006 2:58:25 PM)
The Press Release should at least read, "Senator Chuck Schumer, Head of the DSCC endorses Jim" 


You can't find your "S" ??? (loboforestal - 6/7/2006 3:27:07 PM)
There's a joke there but I'm not going to touch it.


What's Mark Plotkin going to say now? (Ken C. - 6/7/2006 3:16:52 PM)
Headline from WTOP website "Democrat Senate Committee Endorses Webb"! http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=814353
"Former Reagan Republican-turned-Democrat James Webb won the rare backing Wednesday from the head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee." .."Webb is the party's best hope for defeating Senator George Allen."Primary endorsements by the DSCC are unusual, particularly less than a week before the primary.But a three-paragraph statement from Schumer issued by the DSCC says he felt the race against Allen was winnable for Webb."


Phone Bankers....include this in your calls today (kevinceckowski - 6/7/2006 3:23:25 PM)
Please include this news in the phone banking tonight guys and gals.

Phone banking could actually be fun, always like to share good news!  "Have you heard about the DSCC's endorsement of Jim Webb?  Would that change your mind about voting........."



Wowie (Kathy Gerber - 6/7/2006 3:39:47 PM)
story here

~~Sabato says as dramatic as it gets..



Just Called Karl Frisch, DSCC poc (kevinceckowski - 6/7/2006 3:42:01 PM)
The poc is Karl Frisch, with the DSCC, and so I called him. He said it means that the "Chairman of the DSCC who is Charles Schumer has just endorsed Webb".  Just as it says, I say, he said "just as it says" (on DSCC letterhead). 

I said I was with Webb campaign, NOVA4Webb, and wanted a clarification.  He wanted to know if I was a reporter. I said what I said, NOVA4Webb and confused about what the Press Release from Jim's campaign said, was it the DSCC endorsing.

He was very brief and kind.



Did he really say that? (Delta Mike - 6/7/2006 3:56:10 PM)
"This is just another contrast in this campaign of Harris Miller talking to Virginians and Jim Webb campaigning and talking to people outside of Virginia," said Miller strategist Mo Elleithee.

I'm sorry, you can disagree with Schumer all you want (and on a lot of issues, I do), but you do NOT call out the umbrella organization for getting Senators elected.

That's it. I optimistically thought Miller had a chance against Allen, but not after this. Good luck in November buddy... if you can pull next Tuesday off.



Miller's pattern: negativity and insults (Lowell - 6/7/2006 3:58:04 PM)
That's about it from him.  Although Miller wants to be a US Seantor, he goes around dissing Democratic US Senators and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee chairman?  Unbelievable. And Miller wonders why the Senate Dems are all endorsing Jim Webb?  Hmmmmm.


Winning (Info_Tech_Guy - 6/7/2006 4:56:07 PM)
is on the minds of Senate Democrats -- not serving Miller's inflated ego and sick desire to wage a pointless scorched earth war...


Sucky rain, great parade (Maura in VA - 6/7/2006 4:07:09 PM)
I'm happy to see so many of my friends who are Webb supporters and have worked so hard be happy about this.

And I'll just interject here that I can't even vote in VA right now because I've been in CT long enough to have had to change my registration (though I'll likely be back before the general, so I do care).  I don't have a favorite in the race.

But is no one else bothered by a national party organization coming in and interfering in a state-level primary?  I am.  And I thought that most of my netroots friends would be bothered by it, even if they thought the DSCC had picked the right horse.

Even though I was a committed Dean supporter, I would have thought it was wrong if Terry McAuliffe had endorsed him in the Presidential primary.  (And I certainly would have thought it was wrong for him to endorse anyone else!)  The DCCC, DSCC, and DNC should NOT be interfering in the primary process within the party.  It's one thing to support an incumbent by default, but it's quite another to choose a candidate from up above before Democrats have had a chance to have a vote.  Aren't we supposed to believe in Democracy, not dictatorship?

Grassroots Democrats all over the country are incensed that the DCCC in particular is interfering in the Democratic process and not allowing Democrats to choose their own candidates.  Do we think it's okay that someone inside the Beltway has decided who's more electable in our state, without letting voters decide for ourselves?  Remember, John Kerry was annointed as most "electable" by Beltway insider Dems.

If Webb's really more appealing than Harris Miller, if he can really beat George Allen, he should have been able to convince enough Virginia Democrats of that by now without Chuck Shumer sticking his nose in the race.  Quite likely Webb has already done that, but the DSCC has no business interfering here.

I think what Shumer did sucks, regardless of who he chose. 



To clarify... (Maura in VA - 6/7/2006 4:11:34 PM)
...I'm calling myself sucky here for raining on the happy parade.  I really am happy that Webb supporters who've worked so hard have something to celebrate here.  But I think it's important to stand back and ask whether this is really a healthy precedent for the Democratic Party.  I certainly don't think so, regardless of who Chuck Shumer annointed as more "electable".


Interesting point, but my guess is... (Lowell - 6/7/2006 4:18:18 PM)
that Democrats really, really want to win back the Senate. Bad!  Also, I have a feeling that national Dems aren't too happy being dissed by Harris Miller. 


Miller was a lobbyist (Reen - 6/7/2006 4:27:24 PM)
So there's probably some things they know about Miller and they don't want to embarass him or themselves by making it all public.


Bingo (loboforestal - 6/7/2006 4:55:53 PM)
Lot of skeletons in Harris' closet. 


Miller was warned... (ajacied - 6/7/2006 4:23:56 PM)
to stop going negative, but he couldn't help himself. Has he said anything positive about himself in this race? He says he's going to change Washington, but he's spent decades playing the Washington game. It's all he knows.


That is a good point (Eric - 6/7/2006 4:32:37 PM)
especially after all the frustration being vented against the Democratic establishment (see various posts on RK earlier today for a sample).

And isn't it Schumer who helped push Paul Hackett out of the Ohio contest this year - causing much anger amonst fighting dems?

This is clearly a dicey matter, but in the end it's probably one (or both) of the two points Lowell makes.  Either Miller has serious pissed off some high ranking people and he's getting spanked or it's simple politics - Webb is capable of winning and Miller is not.



Much love, Maura (Josh - 6/7/2006 4:35:23 PM)
I love the fact that you're still watching what happens back here in the Old Dominion.

I have to disagree with you on this point, though.  I don't have a second's problem with National Democrats adding their voice to Virginia Democrats at all levels in support of a winner.  Webb has been the outsider and he's won these insider accolades by presenting a stronger campaign, a more positive vision, and a better message overall. 

If Shumer, Reid, Cleland, Kerry, Daschel, Durbin, Dodd, Stabenow, Levin, Salazar, Johnson, Kerrey, and Murtha were the only ones supporting Webb, your argument might hold water, but I'm counting about 50 VA electeds, and a limitless number of devoted democratic activists who want Jim Webb fighting for them in the US Senate.

This isn't a coronation, this is groundswell of near-universal support for Webb at every level of the Democratic Party.

Shumer has just come to the same conclusion so many others have come to: Webb Defeats Allen.



Because the NRSC is backing Miller (loboforestal - 6/7/2006 4:36:08 PM)
Because the National Republican Senatorial Committee is backing Miller: word on the street is that Allen forces are going all out to block Webb now rather than later. Miller's going to suppress Democratic voters with robo calls and neg mailings so that Allen Republicans can vote for Miller in the "open primary". That's not fair either.

Miller shot himself in the head with a 25 year lobbying career that targeted middle and lower class workers, particularly women workers.  Harris got away with breaking Cesar Chavez's union in California but when Mom loses her job in the suburbs, there's going to be some pay back. 


Dear Mr. Miller,

We thank you for time and effort in applying for job as Senator.  Your enthusiasm has earned our admiration. However, we have narrowed our choices to two candidates.  Rather than have two vocal proponents of the upper two percent, we have decided to allow another voice who is better qualified and has more appropriate real world experience.  We will keep your resume on file and should an opening come up: don't call us we'll call you.  Good luck in your career development.

Sincerely,
Virginia Voters



Inverted Situation (Doug in Mount Vernon - 6/7/2006 4:38:29 PM)
Maura,

Normally I would agree with you.  However, Virginia seems to be an inverted situation than for example, the Morrison-Tester match-up in Montana, and the Hackett debacle in Ohio.

In the Webb-Miller race, it's actually the quintessential Washington insider in Miller, and the grassroots excitement for Webb.  This is inverted from most other states, and in my opinion, a very hopeful convergence that may very spell major momentum in Virginia.



If Allen comes out in numbers.... (kevinceckowski - 6/7/2006 5:01:07 PM)
and votes for Miller, it will be tracked.  I believe the Democratic party will turn into rage.  Which may or may not be good for the party.  Why not settle this issue way before that happens?  You can just see it, the Webb signs vanishing, the anger building, the negative campaign of Miller.  I don't think Senator Schumer and the DSCC's endorsement is stepping on anyone.  It is bringing to focus that we want the Senate back, and Webb can help our Party and our country get there.  How many Reagan Democrats do you think want this Republican party in Virginia to go away..........A LOT.  It is not the party that they remember.  But is Harris Miller the candidate to do it, bring them back.  Not by a long shot.  And that is what the DSCC is saying.  Hey, we have to win, and we have to pour money into a campaign that will win, we are talking 5-10 MILLION dollars and we have a chance of winning with Webb, and the folks both in and outside of Virginia know this.  Hope Miller wakes up soon, for our Party's sake.


Signs disappearing (thegools - 6/7/2006 8:08:08 PM)
Almost all of the 40 Webb signs I posted in Fauquier have been pulled down, including a 4x8' sign 16 feet up in a tree, on private land.


RE: Signs (JPTERP - 6/7/2006 9:57:37 PM)
The first thing--were the signs tagged correctly (obviously this shouldn't have been an issue with the 4 by 8 sign no private property).

The second side of this, is that we should probably strategize on a way to prevent this after the primary.  Perhaps we could even run advertisements in some small circulation local papers asking people to report any theft, etc, and let people know how to do this.

Unpaid volunteers give their time and energy to putting these signs up--I think everyone is clearly in agreement that this kind of activity is unacceptable from either side.  If we are able to catch a few people stealing these signs it would send a strong message.  We can make sure that they get a few marks on their record, fines, and possibly an overnight stay in one of the local jails. 



The 4x8 sign stolen (thegools - 6/7/2006 10:14:28 PM)
had a very promenent "Posted- No Trespassing" sign about two feet below it on the same tree.  The thieves tore that down too, leaving it on the forest floor.  (The sign was screwed into the tree.  (I assume that's what you mean about "properly tagged.")

I implore people not to act in kind against Miller or Allen signs.  Though I understand the impulse for revenge, Allen and Miller volunteers are putting in their time too, and are not likely to be guilty of the theft.

In all likelihood, there are probably only a few theives, we must not blame/punish every Allen or Miller volunteer for the actions of a few. 



Horrible poor sports though - I hope some get caught n/t (Alicia - 6/8/2006 10:15:40 AM)


I wish TPP wasn't banned (DanG - 6/7/2006 5:08:48 PM)
I really want to hear his spin right about now.

I just hope these endorsements Webb has been getting recently aren't too late to help him out by Tuesday.  Will there be any last minute phonecalls for Webb mentioning these endorsements?



We've been calling all day and talking up.. (Lowell - 6/7/2006 5:09:53 PM)
the endorsements.  I urge you, and everyone else, to do the same.


ways to help (Arlington Mike - 6/7/2006 5:54:19 PM)
This will sound like a simplistic idea, but it might be good to do a posting on all the ways people can join in and help out this week/weekend, last minute.  A comprehensive listing of things like making calls, handing out fliers at Metro stops or grocery stores or wherever, helping to post signs, etc., and who to contact to do so.  It might make some people realize, well, I can't phone bank, but I could drive around and stomp in some signs. 


Good idea. (Lowell - 6/7/2006 9:17:26 PM)
There's a lot going on, including Celebrate Fairfax (June 9-11, 2006), phone banking at HQ, Metro stop visibility, etc, etc.  Your best bet is probably to join the main Webb Yahoo group - lots of information and a great way to keep up with what's going on.

Thanks.



$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (TurnVirginiaBlue - 6/7/2006 7:30:21 PM)
Did this pump some cash into the campaign so they can fund some TV ads and mailing flyers????

It's so uncool that Miller's mud is coming from the Miller bank of half a million dollars.



Miller has $750,000 in.... (kevinceckowski - 6/8/2006 2:02:10 PM)
so far.

I believe he has 3/4 of a million of his own money into the campaign according to the Post article today.  He took out another 1/4 million to add to his 1/2 million.

I believe the DSCC will pump 5-10 million into this race if Webb wins, no question. 

There are 5 big races the Dems wish to win, and this is one of them.  Easy enough for them to dump 10 million to the right candidate.



too funny (TurnVirginiaBlue - 6/8/2006 2:05:19 PM)
Well, the only good news is watching Miller throw away his money on nothing.

He got that money by selling out American workers.  Shame they can't recapture it but at least he's losing it.



Schumer Endorsement; Ronald Reagan's Role In Our Primary Race (lmdiamond - 6/8/2006 12:29:50 AM)
I have to disagree with Maura about Schumer's endorsement because Harris Miller has not been doing nearly enough on the issues.

Miller doesn't have much to run on so he says stuff like "Webb is not a Democrat", he supported Republicans, etc.  My response to Harris is that when Reagan ran for re-election he won 49 states and something like 60% of the vote.  Harris has so little to run on, that his campaign is not capable of thinking ahead to the general when he will need the support of those same voters he is ridiculing with his condemnation of Jim Webb's association with the Reagan Administration.

By the way, Jim Webb is not going to change my mind about Ronald Reagan.  Unlike Miller, however, I am looking forward.  We are in a different time.  Jim Webb recognizes that Republican policies are not working for this country.  Ok, so some of this don't think they ever worked.  Whatever.  Going into the future, Jim Webb is with us.  That is what counts.



I agree with Lee about Reagan. (Lowell - 6/8/2006 7:18:01 AM)
Nothing personal against the guy, but his Administration was really REALLY bad.  Not as awful as George W. Bush's, of course, which is arguably the worst Presidency in history, but still bad when you consider:

*Mountains of red ink and a huge increase in the national debt
*"Laffer" curves, "trickle down" and "supply side" economics
*Ignominious military debacles, particularly in Lebanon (note:  Jim Webb won an Emmy Award for his reporting from Beirut for the MacNeil/Lehrer News Hour)
*The worst scandal since Watergate - Iran/Contra, starring Virginia's own Oliver "Convicted Felon" North (note: there is NO LOVE LOST between Jim Webb and Ollie North, who was denounced by Webb for attacking Chuck Robb's service record)
*Some of the most blatantly enti-environmental appointments (remember James Watt?) and attempted efforts to weaken pollution controls in history.
*Blatant appeals to racism, including Reagan's infamous 1980 campaign kickoff in Philadelphia, Mississippi, where three civil rights workers were murdered in one of the 1960s' nastiest cases of racist violence.

I could go on and on.  The Reagan Administration was awful.  However, tens of millions of DEMOCRATS voted for Reagan, in part because they believed his outwardly sunny "Morning in America" optimism and appeals to patriotism after the traumas of Vietnam and the Iranian  hostage crisis.  For whatever reason, Reagan captured the hearts and minds of the vast majority of Americans - not me, except at a few moments like Reagan's great speech following the Challenger disaster - including tens of millions of Democrats.  A term was even coined for those people: "Reagan Democrats." 

And today, I would argue that those people - working class, religious, patriotic - are still here, waiting to be led home to the DEMOCRATIC Party by inspirational leaders who hear THEIR voices.  Jim Webb, for instance. 

This Tuesday. we Virginians have an historic opportunity, to nominate the best of Reagan and the best of the Democratic Party in one man named Jim Webb.  Let's not miss this opportunity of a lifetime!



COMMENT HIDDEN (VADem4Ever - 6/8/2006 11:16:46 AM)


Keep reading...Sabato says... (kevinceckowski - 6/8/2006 11:23:12 AM)
University of Virginia political analyst Larry Sabato said the flier wasn't really any worse than other campaign literature he'd seen in hotly contested races.

"I think that's a real stretch to call that anti-Semitic, and I'm not usually inclined to give candidates the benefit of the doubt," Sabato said.



Too bad for Chuck (Eric - 6/8/2006 1:51:41 PM)
but everyone here HAS seen it because you've posted it everywhere. 


VADem4Ever (thegools - 6/8/2006 2:10:44 PM)
Yawn.


VADEM4EVER And The Anti-Miller Flier (lmdiamond - 6/8/2006 2:36:40 PM)
I'm one of the three Jewish guys who started DraftJamesWebb.  The flier is unfortunate, but I think the campaign recognizes the mistake.  I do not think it will happen again.

Clearly, VaDem4Ever wants people to think that Jim Webb is anti-Semitic.  It is a flier put out by a staffer in Southwest.  It should not have been put out, but it is just a flier.

I was concerned about the flier.  I am glad that the campaign took corrective action.



what corrective action? (TurnVirginiaBlue - 6/8/2006 2:46:31 PM)
What did the campaign do about the flyer?

I hate to tell VaDem4Ever but the IT people had no idea Miller was Jewish and they call him the anti-Christ of outsourcing
because of his actions...
Nobody had a clue or cared about his religious of ethnic background.

It's his Corporate alliances and disdain for working people and the middle class that is the focus, 100%.



Really. (loboforestal - 6/8/2006 3:00:28 PM)
Are the Webbers complaining about Miller's "Old Testament Kind Guy" innuendo on Mark Plotkin?  No one's spinning that as "anti-Christian" morality reminiscent of first century Roman imperialism.  I don't think Jews are feeling like victims in their synagoges on Saturday and I don't think Christians are going to feel like they're under attack this Sunday in their churches.  They are both, on Tuesday, going to go vote for Jim Webb.  A whole bunch of other folks will too.

The trolling and arguments and spinning and scaring people into not voting is the politics of fear. It's reprehensible that it seems like a coordinated attack late in the campaign.

People should vote their hopes.



Case Closed (lmdiamond - 6/9/2006 1:46:20 AM)
I think this flier issue is over.  I said what I have to say in my responses to Dem4ever or whatever his/her name is.  Loboforestal (and any other Webb supporter) can probably find me if he/she wants to discuss this further.  It is an important topic, but a very minor one in relation to the campaign.