Northern Virginia is really Metro DC? Okay, where do these unreal Virginians vote? Are they exempt from Virginia income taxes? What do their marriage and children's birth certificates reflect?  

she simply persisted!!!

I heard Chuck Todd say "real Virginia" on the air a few weeks ago. Even though I was born and raised in Northern Virginia and still live here, I guess I'm not a true Virginian. How interesting.  

Let's spell this out for Ms. Pfotenhauer, S-L-O-W-L-Y.

I grew up in Northern Virginia.  Even decades ago, I could swear there were people there.  Many of those people were Democrats.  In fact, most of those people were Democrats.  While some may have "moved in from D.C" (a racial reference if ever there was one), most of them just lived there all along.

Ms. Pfotenhauer claims to be from Oakton.  Guess what, there have always been people in Oakton, as far back as I can remember, anyway.

Ms. Pfotenhauer claims to be a graduate of George Mason University.  Several of my family members, including my mother and three siblings, attended GMU.  GMU is in Fairfax, very near Oakton.

Way back when, there were people in Fairfax, too.  Lots and lots of people.  Many, many of those people were Democrats.  In fact, most of them were Democrats.  That's why the Fairfax Board of Supervisors (and Arlington, and Alexandria) was controlled for decades by Democrats.

And what about the implicit suggestion that Democrats who "move in from D.C." somehow don't count?  Someone needs to ask Ms. Pfotenhauer just what she meant by that.  I'm sure the answer will be interesting.

(Do people who "move in" from Maryland count?  How about people who move from Northern Virginia to other parts of the Commonwealth?  How about people from other areas who move to NoVA?)

The registrars need to bring in lots of extra voting machines, because turnout is going to be very, very high.  The McCain campaign is going to find out just how many Democrats, real Democrats, there are in ALL of Virginia.  It's going to  be unreal.

That's obvious "dog whistle" code for minorities, gays, "liberals," pointy-headed intellectuals...you know, all those people who aren't "Pro-America."  Just wanted to clarify. :)

and now I know why!

I sure wouldn't want to leave anybody out.

How about people who moved to Northern Virginia from other countries?  Oh, I guess we don't count at all.  

I am a life long resident of Fairfax County, graduated from Centreville High School, and also graduated from GMU. I currently work in an office in Fairfax. I'm offended that the Obama campaign doesn't consider me a "real Virginian."

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I cannot explain how very angry that makes me.

would vote for McCain-Palin at this point.

The reason I do see so many McCain-Palin signs I suspect is because the owners of those lawns agree with that toothy Ms. Pfotenhauer. You folks are not, repeat not "real" unless you are a dedicated Bush-McCain-Palin devotee. You are not quite human, you have no business being allowed to vote. When will you peasants understand your place and accept it? Suck it up.  

That means there was a point in time when you could explain it!   :)

over the top on Nov 4th.

Everyone is working very hard all over the state but NOVA will be the difference!

in a nutshell: if you live in a city, a suburb, or an exurb - anywhere but "rural" America or a "small town," you are not "pro-America" and you are not part of "real" America.  Also, if you vote Democratic you must have come in from "DC" or some other city where all those horrible minorities (African Americans, Latinos, religious minorities, gays and lesbians, liberals) live.  

As the McCain campaign said, if they talk about the economy, they lose the election.  Is it any wonder that they've turned to blatant race-baiting and Rovian divisiveness?

so Nancy has now outed herself - she's not a real Virginian.

Raised in Southern California with the "Hollywood movie moguls," lies in a ritzy neighborhood just south of Alexandria...nope, not a "real Virginia."

And don't forget, John McCain has one of his many homes in "Communist Country," Arlington VA.  Not a "real Virginian" either.  Probably hates America too.  Ha. :)

The more the campaign does this, the more it hurts itself. Forget what the campaign is saying, and think about what McCain is showing us.

During campaigns many voters base their votes not on the candidate's stand on the issues, but on their observations of how the candidates conducted themselves and the conclusions they drew from their observations. That is not some great insight -- I think it is pretty commonly known.

One reason swiftboating hurt Kerry was because he didn't fight back at first. By the end of that sad part of the campaign, anyone paying attention knew the SBVT were full of it, but the image of Kerry as someone who had to be forced to mix it up remained.

What people are seeing, or at least the message I think they are getting are now, is that when the going get tough for McCain, he does not lead. Rather, he is led. He does not keep his cool, but uses increasingly ineffective and desperate scattershot tactics without thinking them through.

That is not the person we need to lead us through these times.  

Seriously, I read the comments before I bothered to look at the video, and was astounded at how strong was my reaction to her dismissive comments that people like me aren't "real" Virginians.  How freaking dare she??!!

Her comments were offensive on so many levels I doubt my ability to count them all.  

George Allen said the same damn thing about the place where he was visiting was the "real" Virginia. I wish I could pfind the link so you wouldn't think I was pfaking this.

I'm not pfond of this type of attack. It always strikes me as odd. It just adds more pfuel to the pfire of dividing people by class even though the supposedly detest it. I guess that's all the Republicans have to say after they pfiddled away whatever respect we have in the world while pissing away our pfledgling economy.

But they can't pfool the public in 2008. Barack Obama has put a new pface on the political process that will pforever shape the environment in which we live.

So pfuck it! We as Democrats and Virginians have to pforge a bond and to take this pfight to them. If it's a pfracas they want, then it's a pfracas they will get!  

"This fellow here, over here with the yellow shirt, macaca, or whatever his name is. He's with my opponent. He's following us around everywhere. And it's just great," Allen said, as his supporters began to laugh."....."Let's give a welcome to macaca, here. Welcome to America and the real world of Virginia."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

My guess is she's just lost McCain another 2 or 3 points in Northern Virginia.  I call it pfucking up and pfiring up the other side!  

For those in "unreal Virginia," we suggest that when you next pfass gas in pfolite company, you say "Pfardon me, I Pfotenhaured."

I noticed that my Obama sign was nowhere to be seen.  Someone had tossed it under a tree. I was putting it up again and an Obama volunteer happened by.  He said someone had torn down a 4x8 Obama banner and replaced it with a confederate flag.  By the way 2 groups of Obama volunteers have come through here canvassing house to house.  This is a predominately republican neighborhood so I am somewhat surpised.  

I saw something on the news about a similar problem in another state.  Some woman was caught on film driving up to the victim's house and stealing her Obama sign, then down the street on another camera stealing another sign.  What a jerk.

NOVA is apparently real enough to pay a disproportionate share in taxes each year so that many in "real Virginia" can run their communities and I'm saying that as a non-NOVA resident.  Not only that, her statement about where the residents are coming from is possibly not an accurate representation of what is really going on.  According to a demographic study, a majority of the new residents of Fairfax County previously lived in another part of the state (http://enterprise.star-telegram.com/ARCIms/Maps/clt/2007/irsmig.asp?pick=&action=bg&map.x=359&map.y=8)  Sure those individuals are mostly from other localities in NOVA and possibly came from other localities prior to that, but that is likely to be the case in just about every growing part of the state like Chesterfield, Henrico, and VA Beach.  I could never imagine anyone describing those areas as not being part of "real Virginia."  Then again, what do I know?  I come from what is also likely described as another area of "fake Virginia" (Charlottesville).

Last time I checked votes and a person's value aren't weighted by the amount of time their family has been in the state.

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I am not absolutely sure it is a majority because I didn't add up all the numbers, but a quick glance at the numbers makes that conclusion seem probable to me.

First of all, everyone knows that Fake Virginia is becoming more Democratic because of all the people on food stamps - Dave Albo knows this area better than her.

Second, she ought to pay attention to her community a little more before she opens her mouth.  I had no idea we had such a famous resident in the Providence District of Fake Virginia (FKA Fairfax County).  Ms. Pfotenhauer didn't vote in 6 out of the last 15 general elections (she didn't vote in 05, 03, 01, 99, 98).  She didn't even vote in her boss' first Republican primary in 2000.  Maybe if she's going to comment on the Virginia political scene, she ought to consider voting first.  

He's not even my rep, but I was so offended by his comments I couldn't help myself.  Plus I was happy it was published on the 4th of July.

I suspect that John McCain chose this spokesmodel based on the same deliberations he used to select Sarah Palin.  "Hey, she's a babe, let's hire her!"  

But being able to make sense was apparently not part of the necessary qualifications.

See here for more about Pfotenhauer's stints with the anti-feminist Independent Women's Forum and the anti-"global warming alarmism" Americans for Prosperity" (our old friend David H. Koch is the grou's chairman).

you found the very toothy Ms. Pf. (pronounced "piff") to be a babe? With her barracuda, predator grin? I regret the personality attack, but, really, I mean  really.  

Thought not.  

See the Washington Post article:

"On the same day John McCain campaigned in Northern Virginia, a senior adviser to his campaign decided to disparage the region -- the very area where McCain's campaign national headquarters and one of his eight homes are located," said the state's former lieutenant governor, Donald S. Beyer Jr., now the owner of a number of automobile dealerships in the Northern Virginia suburbs.

"Once again it is clear that the McCain campaign is more concerned with distracting and dividing Virginia voters than making the case that the McCain plan to extend the Bush economic policies for another four years is good for middle class families in Virginia."

Lynchburg is not in real VA. The Falwell's will have  collective strokes.

If you were born here or moved here, what is the difference.  Seems to me you are on equal footing.  If you moved here, then you are a Virginian by choice.  If you were born here and have chosen not to leave the state, then you are a Virginian by choice.  So, what is the difference?

It's silly like is Raleigh-Durham the real North Carolina?  Is Austin the real Texas?  For that matter is Stockton the real California?  Is Seattle the real Washington?

Are there really people who find this distinction meaningful?

There are real cultural differences between "Real Virginia" and the rest of us. I just got back from traveling in "Real Virginia" (formerly southwest Virginia). "Real Virginia" is rural, white, and conservative to ultraconservative.  I am happy to be back home in modern, progressive, multicultural Virginia.  I actually think of "Real Virginia" as being old Virginia.  I feel I am a part of new progressive Virginia.  

P.S.  In case you are wondering, McCain signs were everywhere as were George Allen signs a couple of years ago.  I was surprised by how many 4x8 McCain signs I saw.  I did see some Obama signs so there are some of us there.  

I drove through Nelson county last week and was excited to see more Obama, Warner, and Perriello signs than McCain/Palin.

...dangerous and divisive on another level.  Either way, it's not good.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

Considering that the 14th Amendment was ratified in response to the Civil War, it is especially ironic that Ms. Pfotenhauer would try and divide us based on 'southern' versus 'other'.