Pre-Debate Open Thread: Can McCain Finally Win One?

By: TheGreenMiles
Published On: 10/15/2008 3:43:09 PM

Will McCain's "I'm a mavericky fighter" routine help close his growing gap with Obama tonight? Michelle Cottle says no:

When people are brassed off, they want a fighter. When they're terrified, they want a soothing, reassuring, calm, in-control leader. Obama may not have more experience than McCain dealing with or thinking about the economic troubles giving us night sweats. But he projects an aura of steadiness and authority. By contrast, McCain, who has always had a bit of belligerent twitchiness to him, only looks more volatile and unsettling by emphasizing his fierce, feisty combativeness.

Brian Moran will be attending tonight's Arlington Young Democrats meeting in advance of the Arlington Democrats debate-watching party. You can get more details on the AYD website or in the AYD Facebook group. Find more events near you at My.BarackObama.com, and you're welcome to post local events in the comments below!



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I would love to know what they are going to inject McSame with tonight (Used2Bneutral - 10/15/2008 3:51:00 PM)
You have to believe with what is at stake tonight as a last ditch effort, his medical team has to have him on more than just his herbal suppliments...... I truly do hope that it's not more stressful than a 72 year old can handle.... but, I also won't be surprised to see him lose his cool given the stress level and his history of doing just that....


DEBATE WATCH PARTY tonight @ ALTO PLAZA Centreville (Used2Bneutral - 10/15/2008 4:19:34 PM)
DEBATE WATCH PARTY tonight Western Fairfax and NW PWC....
Sully Dems will be at "Alto Plaza", the gorgeous new restaurant located at 5800 Old Centreville Road, Centreville 20121 (Right on Route 29 at Route 28....it's the really modern looking three story building next to the Centreville Fire House)has opened up their banquet room to us with a 52 inch television set. There is normally a fee for their banquet room which accommodates 60 plus people but they are letting us use this for free tonight.  The Sully Dems are asking people who are attending to please try to arrive at 8:00 PM and order some appetizers and drinks to offset their being so generous to all of us. We are expecting a good turnout and will combine forces with volunteers from the Obama Campaign and others in the community.


from Andrew Sullivan (TheGreenMiles - 10/15/2008 6:18:34 PM)
From the Obama camp's expectations memo:
On the big issues, this debate is one last chance for John McCain to do what he has failed to do throughout this entire campaign:  explain to the American people how his economic policies would be any different at all than the failed Bush agenda he has supported every step of the way.  It's his last chance to somehow convince the American people that his erratic response to this economic crisis doesn't disqualify him from being President."


Ditto (KathyinBlacksburg - 10/15/2008 7:17:17 PM)
Also, I don't think people want someone as belligerent as John McCain.  There are "fighters" and fighters "on steroids" (mean that as an expression, not literally).  The man used the word fight so many times the other day I lost count.  It really gets old.  And sometimes he should just hang up his pathetic worn boxing gloves and give it a rest.


How does John McCain change the subject? (Lowell - 10/15/2008 7:14:16 PM)
From the Bush-Cheney-McCain, deregulation/"trickle down" economy?



Obama's debate talking points: economy, economy, economy (Lowell - 10/15/2008 7:16:08 PM)
Talking Points

· This is John McCain's last chance to turn this race around and somehow convince the American people that his erratic response to this economic crisis doesn't disqualify him from being President.

· Just this weekend the weekend, John McCain vowed to "whip Obama's you-know-what" at the debate, and he's indicated that he'll be bringing up Bill Ayers to try to distract voters.

· So we know that Senator McCain will come ready to attack Barack Obama and bring his dishonorable campaign tactics to the debate stage.

Obama continues to lead on the economic crisis with a rescue plan for Main Street.

* Over the course of the campaign, Barack Obama has laid out a set of policies that will grow our middle class and strengthen our economy.

* But he knows we face an immediate economic emergency that requires urgent action - on top of the plans he's already laid out - to help workers and families and communities struggling right now.

* That's why Barack Obama is introducing a comprehensive four-part Rescue Plan for the Middle Class - to immediately to stabilize our financial system, provide relief to families and communities, and help struggling homeowners.

* This is a plan that can and should be implemented immediately.

* Obama has shown steady leadership during this crisis and offered concrete solutions to move the country forward and his Rescue Plan for the Middle Class builds on the plans to strengthen the economy and rebuild the middle class that he's laid out over the course of this campaign.

* Already in this campaign, he's unveiled plans to give 95 percent of workers and their families a tax cut, eliminate income taxes for seniors making under $50,000, bring down the cost of health care for families and businesses; and create millions of new jobs by investing in the renewable energy sources.

* John McCain has been erratic and unsteady since this crisis began - staggering from position to position and trying to change the subject away from the economy by launching false character attacks.

h/t to Ben Smith at Politico



Off to debate watch gathering with (KathyinBlacksburg - 10/15/2008 7:18:26 PM)
NPR.  I hope watching McShame on a big screen doesn't give me a headache!


Most respected Republican on foreign policy endorses (Lowell - 10/15/2008 7:19:56 PM)
Obama's approach to diplomacy. See here for more:

The ranking Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee parted ways with his party's presidential nominee Wednesday by endorsing Democrat Barack Obama 's approach to diplomacy.

In a lengthy speech at the National Defense University, Indiana Sen. Richard G. Lugar weighed the benefits of talking to foreign leaders, including U.S. enemies, against other actions, such as military force. The issue marks one of the sharpest divides between Obama and John McCain, who has called the Democratic nominee naive for suggesting that he would sit down with leaders such as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Lugar, however, praised Obama, noting that isolation often does not resolve contentious issues.

"He correctly cautions against the implication that hostile nations must be dealt with almost exclusively through isolation or military force," Lugar said in a prepared remarks released before his speech. "In some cases, refusing to talk can even be dangerous."

Gee, I wonder what Jeff Frederick has to say about this? :) Also, if McCain calls Obama naive again, Obama merely has to say that the MOST RESPECTED Republican on foreign policy in the US Senate agrees with HIS approach, not John McCain's "bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran" militarism.



Keep this in mind while watching Bob Schieffer tonight (Lowell - 10/15/2008 7:25:07 PM)

He LOOOOOOVES John McCain!



Batman vs. McCain, I mean, the Pinguin (Hugo Estrada - 10/15/2008 8:59:15 PM)

Blast from the past.