Virginia's Obamacans

By: Rob
Published On: 9/5/2008 9:00:00 AM

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Horrible! (legacyofmarshall - 9/5/2008 10:31:10 AM)
I had no idea they were sending sailors to the ground!  That's a true lack of military judgment indeed.

This is a great video - I personally know many "Obamacans" back in McLean, though I don't think the Obama campaign is interested in interviewing a lobbyist in a $1.2 million house who are voting D for the first time.

Just a side note - why did that lady have to say she's a registered Republican?  It really annoys me when people say they're a registered insert party in Virginia - it's impossible!



Registered? (Teddy - 9/5/2008 1:13:03 PM)
While true that we do not register by party in the Old Dominion, the lady may have come here from elsewhere, and, moreover, the parties here do frequently have folks who vote in their primaries or attend their cacuses or conventions sign loyalty oaths to support whoever becomes their nominee. Those loyalty oaths sound an awful lot like registration. It also sounds as though you are really, really committed if you say you're registered (or a "card-carrying" whatever).


Any registered voter in Va. can vote in either party's primary- just not both. (Tom Counts - 9/5/2008 3:13:34 PM)
There is no provision in Va. law that allows either party to require a voter to sign a "loyalty oath" in order to vote in any primary. Even a person who is a member of a party cannot legally be prevented from voting in the other party's primary election in Va.  In this context,the only restriction in Va. is that a registered voter cannot vote in both a Dem. and Republican primary associated with the same general election.

I've voted in both Dem. and GOP primaries numerous times over the years, sometimes even in the same election year. The is no provision in Va. law that allows either party to require a party loyalty oath before voting in a primary. As an example, I voted for Glen Hill for Sheriff in the GOP primary last year and I voted in the Dem. caucus when Gary Friedman ran against Sharon Pandak for County Board of Supervisors Chair. Gary, as you know, turned out to be a DINO and showed his true political affiliation when left the Dem. party and joined Corey Stewart's camp.

Another related aspect in Virginia is that there is no legal requirement for a registered voter to be a member of either party in order to even vote in a party caucus or even a state convention. Nor do the bi-laws of either party in Va. require party membership in order to vote in a caucus or a state convention.

One last point and I'll shut up. A "loyalty oath" (I have no idea what "loyalty oath" means in the context of whether a registered voter can vote in one or the other party's primary, since we vote by secret ballot in both party's primaries)of course has nothing at all to do with voter registration, even in states that require registration by party or as an Independent (e.g., MD).  In states such as MD that do require registration by party or as an Independent, there is nothing in their state laws that says anything about a "loyalty oath" - in fact there is no "oath" of any kind, they just register by party or as an Independent (i.e., no stated party affiliation, which of course means Independents can't vote in any party's primary, only in the general election).

Again, party affiliation (if any) in Virginia has nothing at all to do with registration, nor does it preclude a member of either party from voting in the other party's primary elections.

BTW, I was a delegate to the Va. Dem. state Pres. convention in Hampton the 14th of June and, although I happened to have been a Clinton delegate, I signed no party nor Clinton "loyalty oath". I was technically (not legally) obligated to cast my vote for Clinton at the state convention, but was not and still am not under any legal obligation to support any particular candidate of either party.



You are correct, Tom (Teddy - 9/5/2008 4:25:28 PM)
about registering by party in Virginia, and I, too, have voted in both Republican and Democratic parties, though not in the same year (way to go, Tom :-)). Nevertheless, as a member of a local Democratic committee I do promise to support the party's candidates, although, needless to say, this cannot be enforced inside a voting booth. I distinctly remember Virginia Republicans have tried to force members of their party to sign a loyalty oath at various times, and they have had some dandy fights internally over it, but then, Republicans are notoriously paranoid, and their Rovers are nastily vindictive.


The Woman.... (Flipper - 9/5/2008 1:31:24 PM)
in the video stated she was from San Diego - California has registration by party.

The question is - did she shift here registration to Virginia?