3:24 am: The Cell Phone Buzz Says It's Joe Biden

By: Lowell
Published On: 8/23/2008 3:25:46 AM

"Barack has chosen Senator Joe Biden to be our VP nominee.  Watch the first Obama-Biden rally live at 3 pm ET on www.BarackObama.com"

A few quick thoughts, then back to bed:  

*This is a very strong choice, Biden provides tremendous experience including on foreign policy, where he is one of the nation's leading experts (he's chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee)

*Biden also served as chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee during the Robert Bork confirmation hearings

*Biden believes the government should stay neutral on abortion ("I do not believe that the government should be involved in making judgments on whether a woman can, or should have an abortion, or - if she chooses to do so - in paying for that abortion.")

*Biden supports federal funding for embryonic stem cell research - one of my most important issues

*Biden is excellent on energy and environmental issues, believing we must take action on global warming, opposing drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, and strongly supporting renewable power and energy efficiency.  Biden has said, "If I could wave a wand, and the Lord said I could solve one problem, I would solve the energy crisis."

*Biden is a "lunch bucket" Democrat, an Irish Catholic originally from Scranton, Pennsylvania.


Comments



Senate Judiciary Committee Leadership (dsvabeachdems - 8/23/2008 3:42:46 AM)
They will be an excellent team and Senator Biden's bona fides will spin the neocon apologists apoplectic.


I got the text, too (Ron1 - 8/23/2008 4:01:46 AM)
Will have to work on my enthusiasm the next few days.


Me too (have to work on it--enthusiasm). (KathyinBlacksburg - 8/23/2008 8:26:59 AM)
I'm not exactly 3:16AM-excited.  I have only liked one VP pick in my whole life.  At least he didn't go with an obscure Congressman from TX though.  


Ha (Ron1 - 8/23/2008 12:01:38 PM)
Right on, Kathy (seriously, Chet Edwards?!?).

It could have been much worse -- Evan Bayh or Tim Kaine. And it does seriously cover Obama's foreign policy flank, so in that respect it's a good thing.

I sincerely hope all the Hillary supporters now get on board in states like Ohio and Florida, or this election will be very, very tight.



smart staging (jsrutstein - 8/23/2008 4:13:31 AM)
It's amazing that Obama could keep his pick from leaking out as long as he did.  I don't think the late night leaks preceding the text message by a few hours will bother too many supporters who were hoping no one would know before they did.  For my part, it helps that I think Biden's a fine pick.  I also think that my fortitude in holding out hope for a more glamorous progressive pick (what Al Giordano calls a three-pointer, like Gore, Richardson, or Schweitzer) was worn down by the long wait, aided by the veiled threats of the most avid Clinton supporters.  It's probably also a sign that Obama's rollout strategy worked on me, because there must be something that permitted me to wake to a text message, turn on the tv, go online, and participate in this blog.  I probably need to get more of a life, but this is pretty fun.  Getting back to sleep won't be easy.  


Forcing McCain's hand (jsrutstein - 8/23/2008 4:29:38 AM)
Though I'm only half-awake and will force myself to bed after posting this, I read a comment by Hokie Guru over at NLS that intrigued me.  Hokie Guru predicted that Obama's picking Biden will force McCain to pick Ridge to try to wrest back the vitally important state of Pennsylvania.  I had predicted earlier in another thread that if Obama were to pick Clinton it would give McCain the space to pick a pro-choice running mate, because the pro-lifers would care more about keeping Clinton more than a heartbeat away.  As important as Pennsylvania is, I don't think it would be enough to mollify the pro-lifers were McCain to pick Ridge.  At the same time, I think Biden will impress many more independents than if McCain were to pick Romney.  Biden's only weakness going into a debate with Romney would be appearing too superior.  From an electoral standpoint as well as for what it does to McCain's decision, picking Biden was smart.  Good night.


Meanwhile, the Swift Boaters attack... (Lowell - 8/23/2008 6:15:45 AM)
Yesterday, a right-wing smear group launched a full-fledge attack against Barack, pulling in every baseless lie and re-hashed false assertion in their playbook.

Not only that -- it turns out the ad may be illegal. Campaign finance experts are weighing in about violations of election law. And the ad is so ridiculous that CNN and even Fox News have both refused to run it.

This is exactly the kind of politics Barack is running to change.

Unfortunately, some TV stations in Virginia are running the ad right now.

Contact stations in Virginia and tell them this kind of garbage shouldn't be run on the public's airwaves -- no matter how much money they are making to run it.

John McCain claims he had nothing to do with this attack, but a former McCain consultant leads the so called 'third-party' group behind these lies.

The primary funder of the ads, Harrold Simmons, is one of the main culprits behind the Swift Boating of John Kerry and a top bundler for John McCain. The spokesman for the group also has ties to the Kerry Swift Boat attacks.

The McCain camp and the Swift Boaters must be truly desperate to change the subject from John McCain's shocking disconnect with the economic struggles of the American people.

Take action right now to make sure this trash doesn't pollute another election:

http://va.barackobama.com/offt...

Keep fighting the good fight,

Obama Action Wire



Will Nader make it on the ballot? (Lowell - 8/23/2008 7:34:06 AM)
According to this, he might:

Consumer crusader Ralph Nader submitted more than 15,000 signatures yesterday to get his name on the Virginia ballot as the presidential candidate of the Green Party.

Loraine Thompson, an official with the State Board of Elections, said the board is checking the signatures to see whether they qualify.



Kudos to Steve Clemons (Lowell - 8/23/2008 8:04:20 AM)
His blog, The Washington Note, absolutely NAILED this story.  Great work!


Tim Kaine statement on Obama-Biden (Lowell - 8/23/2008 8:09:58 AM)
"I am very excited that Senator Obama has selected Senator Biden to be his running mate.  Senator Biden is a tremendous leader and a great complement to Senator Obama and his candidacy.  He has worked as a committed public servant, has a proven track record, and understands the complex challenges facing our nation.

"The Obama-Biden ticket provides the United States with a new and meaningful dialogue with world leaders and will improve America's standing with our allies and the global community.

"As a governor, I know the value of having reliable partners who are willing to tackle tough challenges in Washington. The failed economic policies of the last 8 years have left states across the country struggling with budget shortfalls.  Even here in Virginia, we are facing tough economic times.  An Obama-Biden administration will give me and governors across the country the kind of partnership we need to deliver results for America's working families.

"While families across America are looking for results and solutions-oriented leaders, Senator John McCain offers more of the same failed policies of the last eight years.  The Obama-Biden ticket offers Americans a clear choice and a real opportunity for change."



Timing (KathyinBlacksburg - 8/23/2008 8:18:49 AM)
My call came at 3:16.  Too tired to blog! I really question the timing of the calls, even though we all signed on.  


I think it's because the story had finally leaked (Lowell - 8/23/2008 8:29:16 AM)
My guess is they intended to text us this morning sometime, but got preempted by news reports.  Oh well, they kept the secret a long time and it almost held to the last minute.


hard to hide when Secret Service went "On Duty" at just before 11:30 PM (Used2Bneutral - 8/23/2008 8:53:23 AM)


Should have also noted (KathyinBlacksburg - 8/23/2008 9:06:51 AM)
that while my text message came at 3:16 AM, the email came at 3:11 AM.  


Poll numbers (progressive in va - 8/23/2008 8:52:16 AM)
This will help Obama's poll numbers. The conflict in Georgia has pushed the numbers down in more conservative leaning polling companies.  


Excellent Choice (Chris K. - 8/23/2008 8:57:32 AM)
Picking Biden tells me that Obama is playing to win, rather than playing not to lose. That's huge. Obama ignored many VP conventions here: Biden is from a small state that is not geographically very helpful; he is long-winded and prone to the occasional gaffe; and he's a Washington insider. On paper, none of those help.

But he DOES bring 3 critical things. In order of importance (as I see them, particularly for a Presidential-level campaign): 1. energy/personality, 2. foreign policy expertise, and 3. a willingness to take it directly to the opposition.

There were no perfect choices here, but I think Biden was the strongest. People talked about a "safer" pick, but let's remember that the safe pick is only safe if he/she ABSOLUTELY produces a victory. I don't think any of the VP contenders were in that category.



The choice is terrible -- (zztop - 8/23/2008 9:37:25 AM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

There's the first McCain ad.

Biden does not bring any EVs.  There are 3 in DE.  And Kerry carried it fairly easily last time.

And here's what Biden said about Obama's foreign policy experience, from a Politico report on a press release Biden sent out during the primary:

Sen. Biden has been talking about this for over 6 months. Dating back to January 5th, Sen. Biden said America Should Surge Troops in Afghanistan. He told the Washington Post, "If we're surging troops anywhere, it should be in Afghanistan," Biden said. Adding troops there would give the United States "the moral high ground" in its quest for more forces from NATO allies. [Washington Post, 1/5/07]

"We find it a little disingenuous that Sen. Obama is hailing this as a new bold initiative when he has neglected to join his colleagues in the Senate when the opportunities have been there to redirect our forces into Afghanistan" said Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro. "It's good to see Sen. Obama has finally arrived at the right position, but this can hardly be considered bold leadership."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/...

And then there's Biden's plagiarism problems:

Then in September 1987, the campaign ran into serious trouble when he was accused of plagiarizing a speech by Neil Kinnock, then-leader of the British Labour Party.[27] Though Biden had correctly credited the original author in all speeches but one, the one where he failed to make mention of the originator was caught on video.[28] Within days, it was also discovered that, while a first year law student at Syracuse Law School, Biden had plagiarized a law review article in a class paper he wrote. Though the then-dean of the law school, as well as Biden's former professor, played down the incident of plagiarism, they did find that Biden drew "chunks of heavy legal prose directly from" the article in question. Biden said the act was inadvertent due to his not knowing the proper rules of citation, and Biden was permitted to retake the course after receiving a grade of F, which was subsequently dropped from his record. Biden also released at the same time the record of his grades as an undergraduate which were C's and D's with the exception of two A's in physical education, one B in a course on English writers and an F in ROTC during his first three semesters.[29] His grades improved later in his undergraduate career but were not exceptional.[29] Further, when questioned by a New Hampshire resident about his grades in law school Biden had claimed falsely to have graduated in the "top half" of his class, (when he actually graduated 76th in a class of 85) that he had attended on a full scholarship, and had received three degrees.[30] In fact he had received two majors, History and Political Science, and a single B.A., as well as a half scholarship based on financial need.[30]

Faced with these revelations, Biden withdrew from the nomination race on September 23, 1987, saying his candidacy had been overrun by "the exaggerated shadow" of his mistakes.[31]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B...

So there you have it, an academic underachiever from a state smaller than many eastern counties, who cheated in law school and flunked ROTC.



Yeah... (Tom Joad (Kevin) - 8/23/2008 9:56:58 AM)
VPs don't generally add any EVs. Look at your recent Presidential election history and tell me a state that a VP secured that wasn't going to be secured by the Presidential nominee himself would not have achieved. Can't find one? That's because that theory is a myth.

Also, let me remind you of a time back in 1980 when George Bush called Ronald Reagan's economic plan "voo doo economics" in the Republican Presidential primary. Did they fail to win the White House? No. So people who run in the primary together can work together.

And I'm simply stunned that you found out about his plagiarism "problem". Dang it why didn't the Obama campaign go to wikipedia and find this out?



I've got to do a better job... (Tom Joad (Kevin) - 8/23/2008 10:00:13 AM)
while watching TV. The second sentence should not include "would not have achieved". Thought I deleted it. Sorry.


moreover (jsrutstein - 8/23/2008 10:07:09 AM)
McCain, the top of the GOP ticket, practically brags about how close to the bottom he was in his graduating class at the Naval Academy.

And McCain no matter how hard he tries to finesse it is trying to effectively gain a 3rd term for Bush Jr., who bumped Bart Simpson as the poster child for underachievers.

And compared to Biden's tepid scandals, McCain himself admitted to screwing up his first marriage and offers no excuses.  And anything more than a cursory look at the Keating Five scandal makes McCain look very bad.  I'm not sure McCain's opposition will even have to do the hard work of educating the masses about how phony McCain's reformer maverick image was.  And, look at the unscrupulous lobbyists and neocons that are dictating McCain's current campaign.

Now, let's look at the top of the Dem ticket.  Oh my.  The head of Harvard Law Review.

There are a lot of factors that will be important in this race.  Biden's shortcomings won't be among them.



I'm just glad the President will no longer be the dumb one (relawson - 8/23/2008 10:32:54 AM)
Further, when questioned by a New Hampshire resident about his grades in law school Biden had claimed falsely to have graduated in the "top half" of his class, (when he actually graduated 76th in a class of 85) that he had attended on a full scholarship, and had received three degrees.[30] In fact he had received two majors, History and Political Science, and a single B.A., as well as a half scholarship based on financial need.[30]

It's a welcome change that the smart one will be the President.  Obama is the steak, Biden is the sizzle ;-)



I'm tired and grumpy (relawson - 8/23/2008 10:18:56 AM)
Thanks alot Obama campaign.  I went to bed shortly before the stupid page went out.

You should have sent the page out yesterday during business hours.  It would have been the talk around the office, and we would have felt a bit more special knowing first.

This was a total spoiler, thanks to the media catching the secret service pulling into Biden's driveway.

The idea to send out an email or page to supporters first was brilliant.  The delivery was horrible.

I'm too tired right now to be excited about the whole thing.  It was probably a good political choice.  I would never want Biden to be president - hopefully Obama never drops dead.



Here's what Politico says (zztop - 8/23/2008 11:21:12 AM)
http://www.politico.com/news/s...

Reporters and opposition researchers are already salivating at the verbal grenades yet to be launched.

More substantively, Biden supported the 2002 resolution that authorized the war in Iraq - a resolution that Obama opposed and, in the primaries at least, painted as "the most important foreign policy decision in a generation."

Biden was on the wrong side of that thinking, by Obama's lights. In 2002, he said that America had "no choice but to eliminate" Saddam Hussein.

While preparing for his own run at the party's nomination last year, he took several shots at Obama's inexperience, warning that "if the Democrats think we're going to be able to nominate someone who can win without that person being able to table unimpeachable credentials on national security and foreign policy, I think we're making a tragic mistake."

When Obama gave a speech saying he'd send troops into Pakistan if he had actionable intelligence and the Pakistani government was unwilling to act, Biden told NPR that "It's a well-intentioned notion he has, but it's a very naive way of thinking how you're going to conduct foreign policy," adding of his then-rival, in a remark Republicans are sure to revive, "Having talking points on foreign policy doesn't get you there."

Biden also said last year of his now-running mate, that "I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training." He may also see clips from his 1988 presidential run, when he ran an ad in which the narrator warns:

"The White House isn't a place to learn how to deal with international crisis, the balance of power ... the economic future of the next generation,' the narrator of Biden's 1988 ad for the Democratic nomination said. "The president has got to know the territory."



Wow... (Tom Joad (Kevin) - 8/23/2008 12:21:54 PM)
I wonder if Obama thought about any of this...quick email this to his campaign quickly so we might avert disaster!


It Is Called "POLITICS" (Lee Diamond - 8/23/2008 1:10:06 PM)
Have you heard of it?  P O L I T I C S.  Try it again ZZTop.   Obama and Biden are both on the ball.  McWar is well over the hill.  If he chooses Romney, he will be running with a guy who has too many faces to count.  So, an angry, manufactured by wife's family, over the hill, Kill Kill Kill all the bad guys running with a classic Chameleon character versus Barack Obama running with the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

I like that matchup.

Biden's selection clearly says that Barack Obama is committed to winning.  Down the road there will be more important things.  Right now, this is a game changer.  We go on the offensive now with economics and we have a strategy.



I'm Happy (NP - 8/23/2008 1:21:16 PM)
I think this is going to be an exciting ride.  Maybe Clark can be in the cabinet.  I sure hope so.  Biden was my second choice and I am looking forward.  

I think the delivery was inadvertently terrible.  They were trying to take it to the end but as soon as SS was sent to Biden's home the email should have come out. Can't win them all.  



Great choice by Sen. Obama! (Johnny Camacho - 8/23/2008 6:32:47 PM)
I have been unbearably giddy since the pick was confirmed by CNN last night. Joe Biden is the kind of public servant that everybody in public service should aspire to be, and it will be an honor to vote for him in November.