Hotline: Joe Biden Says "I'm not the guy"

By: Lowell
Published On: 8/19/2008 5:48:02 PM

Hotline has the story:

As Joe Biden left his home a few minutes ago with golf clubs, NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli asked him where he was going to be on Saturday.

Biden replied, "Here" and pointed down to his driveway.

As he pulled out of the driveway in the driver's seat of his car, he said to the press gathered near his gate: "You guys have better things to do. I'm not the guy."

Is this a head fake or is Biden serious?  If so, combined with the fact that Kaine is literally the only Obama endorser with no announced speaking slot right now, combined with the rumor about a "line of succession" meeting, I'd say it's Tim Kaine.  As one friend said to me a few minutes ago, "sometimes if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck."  Anybody else hear some loud quacking going on? :)

UPDATE: According to Marc Ambinder at The Atlantic, Tim Kaine will speak on Thursday night of the convention. Given that the running mate speaks Wednesday night, is this a sign that it's NOT Tim Kaine?  My god, I'm so confused! :)


Comments



Sez Chris Guy: Kaine speaks Thursday (nt) (Ron1 - 8/19/2008 5:52:43 PM)


Ducks Quacking..... (Flipper - 8/19/2008 5:56:03 PM)
I sure do!



And I Just Got... (Flipper - 8/19/2008 5:58:08 PM)
the audio of the conversation in which Obama asked and Kaine agreed to be V.P.



Kaine now has a Thursday slot (VaD2 - 8/19/2008 6:11:49 PM)
According to Marc Ambinder and the Atlantic.

http://marcambinder.theatlanti...



Speaking slots not a sign (Kindler - 8/19/2008 6:45:35 PM)
It looks like all or most of the VP prospects have speaking slots at the convention, so I don't think that means anything.  Somebody's slot will just get moved to Weds, that's all...

I have to say, the presidential campaigns have certainly gotten good at building up the suspense about this issue --like a frickin' murder mystery or something...



As long as they can keep up the suspense (Tiderion - 8/19/2008 7:33:16 PM)
and generate the interest, the better. I believe on CNN they called it a subtle dance that must be kept up as long as the public remains interested in it. Obama needs the publicity since the DNC goes first. Keep McCain out of the press except for when he does stupid things.


I have inside info (pvogel - 8/19/2008 7:36:27 PM)
My sister has a contract to sell thousands of tshirts, buttons, mugs etc at the convention in Denver, they wont tell her
whose name goes in the vp slot, and time is growing very short.

Unless my sister took a vow of silence, on pain of death, and could not tell me..........

she has no idea who its gonna be.



They had a comment on Hairballl... (ericy - 8/19/2008 7:44:08 PM)

that McCain was considering Lieberman and asking around what kind of pain that would cause to the various state party chairs.   Please, or please, pick Joe...


ugh (Tiderion - 8/19/2008 7:51:25 PM)
why does everyone want lieberman as their vp? he clearly is not trustworthy.


If I Was Joe Biden Or Any Other Prospective Candidate...... (Lee Diamond - 8/19/2008 7:47:18 PM)
I would not want the f-ing media in my driveway.  There may have been a day way in the past when I would have offered them lemonade, but that time has passed.

The action will be in Springfield, IL, not Joe Biden's or anybody else's driveway.



Now comes this... (Johnny Camacho - 8/19/2008 7:53:53 PM)
From: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

How big a deal is today's veepstakes comment from Sen. Joe Biden that "I'm not the guy"?

A figure familiar with Biden's thinking says the remark is hardly consequential.

"That is a comment that he typically gives for people who ask about [the vice presidency]," the source said, adding that it has been the senator's stock answer to the question for weeks now.



Yes, but... (Kindler - 8/19/2008 9:16:09 PM)
...it might be an issue if it turned out he was flat out lying to the press.

I mean, look what happen when Clinton lied about a certain sex act...



It's been reported multiple places (Chris Guy - 8/19/2008 10:37:00 PM)
that the person who Obama has decided on, hasn't been told yet.


Bet on Bayh, not Biden (Kindler - 8/19/2008 9:27:38 PM)
First, it is perfectly true that Biden tends to wedge his foot in his mouth.  He simply is famous for talking himself blue in the face.  Certainly he is eloquent and clever, but his words tend to wander so far that they not infrequently end up stepping on land mines.

Second, I don't like the dynamic of the young Obama pairing himself with the wrinkled old veteran of Washington politics.  It will remind people of the young Bush picking wrinkled old Cheney as his VP.  Yes, I know that the differences are vast -- Biden is not evil, nor is Obama a moron -- but politics is about appearance and I don't like how this would appear.

Third, what does Biden gain beyond the foreign policy oomph?  And how many Americans can even spell "foreign policy"?  Unless you choose a general, most voters won't notice the difference.

I don't know why more people aren't talking about Bayh as the logical choice.  Indiana is so close in the polls, it is a state that could be turned blue -- and that would be historic, as it's the last state in the Northeast-Midwest corridor to consistently vote Republican.  

Bayh would help anchor Obama's "scary" image for the lunch-bucket crowd, with about the whitest white guy you could imagine, someone who would not look out of place on a "Leave it to Beaver" episode, a moderate former Clinton supporter from middle America.  And he's young, reinforcing Obama's generational message.  

From the perspective of assembling a winning ticket (not necessarily the perspective of progressivism and so on), he simply makes the most sense.



One problem with Bayh (Lowell - 8/19/2008 9:31:08 PM)
If elected as VP, we almost automatically lose that US Senate seat.  That wouldn't be good at all.


He could pull a Lieberman... (Bryan Scrafford - 8/19/2008 10:19:07 PM)
Lieberman ran for both VP and the Senate in 2000. Couldn't Bayh do the same thing?


I guess that still doesn't deal with what to do if he's elected n/t (Bryan Scrafford - 8/19/2008 10:20:34 PM)


Bayh's not up for re-election this year (Chris Guy - 8/19/2008 10:38:27 PM)
2010.


But foreign policy "oomph" is important. (Barbara - 8/19/2008 9:48:29 PM)
Critical, I would say.  And he certainly would bring that.

Have to disagree with your second point.  A seasoned foreign policy expert seems to me a good balance.  Don't forget how many voters out there are in the over 60 crowd.

Aside from (maybe) Indiana, I really don't see what Bayh brings to the table.      



Bye (NP - 8/19/2008 11:12:54 PM)
He is DLC too.  That won't mean change. He isn't his father.


Obama-Kaine spelled backwards is political suicide (presidentialman - 8/21/2008 2:56:02 AM)
I heard that having Obama who has two years in the Senate, and Kaine,who is just as young and has no foreign policy expertise is like giving the election to McCain. And that Putin chose Obama's VP with his offense on Georgia.  John Kennedy,offered a new face to America departing from the old Eisenhower years, with a glamorous family, a youthful tone etc etc, yet he'd been in Washington for at least 16 years in Congress. Yet he was not of it. He certainly wasn't a great legislator His pick,Lyndon Johnson, was everything his opposite. He was Senate Majority Leader and a creature of the Capitol, a Protestant to a Catholic and Kennedy needed to win Texas to win the election. So he went with Johnson. It worked they won. And other presidents have similar stories of geographic balance or whatnot, that's how the VP to a Prez candidate game works.  So as another has said, what's wrong with offsetting McCain "foreign policy experience?" Also, Biden says stupid stuff sometimes to Obama's articulateness.  It would show Obama's self-made by going to Harvard but not elite, cause he doesn't mind having someone that says stupid stuff sometimes-we all have foot in mouth disease sometimes.


I think it will be... (relawson - 8/19/2008 10:31:22 PM)
Wesley Clark.  In a survey of who people trust on national security, 80% picked McCain over Obama's 20%.  It makes sense that he picks a VP that compensates for that.

I wouldn't read too much into who is slated to speak.  That can always be changed at the last minute.



No (HisRoc - 8/20/2008 12:21:53 AM)
Wes Clark makes a habit of gratuitously making enemies.  Smart general but stupid politician.  His ego is over the top and he would be an even more out-of-control VP than Darth Cheney.

Obama is too smart to pick him.



Maybe I am the guy (Spock - 8/19/2008 10:50:42 PM)
Biden back-tracking on his "I'm not the guy" statement.  Wake me up when this is over.

http://thepage.time.com/2008/0...



What is The Story? (Lee Diamond - 8/20/2008 12:02:35 PM)
For Barack, foreign policy is the whole story in this particular moment.   He will find another means of getting at economics.  Joe Biden is the one for this moment, this situation.