Obama Shouldn't Help Pay Hillary's Debt

By: Matt H
Published On: 5/12/2008 5:26:52 PM

After last week's elections I sent in another check to the Obama campaign and would be very troubled to see him offer to help Hillary pay for the debt that she has accrued after staying in the race for too long.

Perhaps if she hadn't played the race card, or had not played into the 3 AM pseudo fears of the public, I'd be less upset with the prospect of my hard-earned money going to her.

Should Obama select Hillary for the Veep position, I'd be equally perturbed.  


Comments



I'll second that. (j_wyatt - 5/12/2008 7:14:11 PM)
It's her debt.  Let her pay it.  They've got the money.


Um... no they don't (DanG - 5/12/2008 7:16:40 PM)
That's kinda the point.


They quote unquote don't? (j_wyatt - 5/12/2008 7:30:28 PM)
She must have had the eleven million to loan to her campaign.  Can't imagine a bank would lend anyone eleven million dollars to give to their own political campaign.  Maybe it was one of those cash advance places in a pocket mall?  Or did they get a cash advance on their Amex black card?

Pre-campaign, Bill was getting as much as $ 500k a speech, so there's always that.  Though his rate may have come down considerably since the two of them have done such a fine job trashing the Clinton brand.

Maybe one of those defense contractors she's been showering money on would chip in?  Or put Bill on the board?

Or she could turn to all those white male high school grads she claims are so enamored of her to help her out?  A nickel here, a dime there, and pretty soon you've got eleven million.



My understanding is that the Clintons (Lowell - 5/12/2008 7:35:30 PM)
have made $100 million since they left the White House.  And Bill Clinton can earn a heck of a lot per speech, as j_wyatt points out.  So, yes, they DO have the money, or they certainly COULD have the money pretty quickly.


They won't pay off their debt with their own money (DanG - 5/12/2008 7:36:50 PM)


Then she's in deep doodoo. (j_wyatt - 5/12/2008 7:50:54 PM)
All of her own making.


About $ 21 million ... (j_wyatt - 5/12/2008 7:53:27 PM)
Clinton's campaign debt is thought to be upwards of $10 million -- not including the $11.425 million she loaned her campaign from her personal funds.


Maybe They'll Be Forced to Foreclose on Their Houses (Matt H - 5/13/2008 2:55:31 PM)
How ironic: We will be able to say she's just like the rest of us hard working Americans; in debt up to her ears, out of options, and out of her house(s).

She'll go from Wal-Marts board room to it's dressing room.  



The fact that the media are fanning this (KathyinBlacksburg - 5/13/2008 2:58:25 PM)
suggests that perhaps they are trying to depress Obama donations.  It seems like the various media take whatever tack they need to keep the supporters of both sides fired up and angry.

I know that victorious candidates sometimes offer losers help with debt repayment. There is a precedent.  But given the acrimony and refusal of the Clintons to stop wedging racial politics, I would be totally opposed to it in this case.  And, as has been noted, the Clintons could easily pay it back.

It should also be noted that a negative 20 million is a poor indicator of fiscal responsibility.  Why isn't this being made a more prominent issue?  Where's the sound fiscal management?  Earlier, the HRC campaign couldn't pay its staff, but it did manage to pay Mark Penn $5 mil.  

I agree with the writer.  No help with our money.  No VP slot either.  Whatever Hillary's motives for continuing, she is dividing this party more every single day she keeps it up.



Alexrod Says this Won't Happen (Matt H - 5/13/2008 3:19:23 PM)
I heard him say this after I posted this.  


Don't you trust Obama's judgment? (tx2vadem - 5/12/2008 7:36:05 PM)
You voted for him.  You gave him money.  You don't trust his judgment?


This is Obama's Marshall Plan (The Grey Havens - 5/13/2008 8:18:46 PM)
The progressives need to keep the corporatist wing of the Dem party healthy enough to function, but not so strong as to dominate the agenda.

One powerful exercise of Obama's power will be to show that the Clintons NEED him/us, his supporters.

That said - not one dime for Mark Penn.  If you want to pay for someone to abuse you, hire a dominatrix.  Hillary should sue to get her debt suspended if she's got the guts.



Obama can't (Tom Joad (Kevin) - 5/13/2008 10:09:05 PM)
donate more than $2000. The whole premise is moot.


He could let her use his mailing list. (Randy Klear - 5/13/2008 10:37:23 PM)
I suspect a lot of his supporters would not be too pleased with that.


Her fundraisers and donors will raise the money (AnonymousIsAWoman - 5/15/2008 4:43:11 PM)
It's not at all unusual for candidates to end up with campaign debts - Al Gore had em after both his presidential campaigns.

No candidate at that level lacks for friends and fundraisers.  People specifically have fundraising events to retire these debts.

Even though Hillary probably will not get the nomination, I  wouldn't count her out as a Senate leader in the future.  So, plenty of her own supporters will help her retire her debt from this campaign.

And right now, Hillary is not tearing the party apart.  She's simply running out the clock.  However, angry Obama supporters, who are the polar opposite of his message, are in danger of alienating her many supporters, who will be needed in November.

I'm not just talking about white, working class voters but also the many women who supported her.  They are part of the Democratic base too.  You can't win with just Independents and Republican crossovers (and I'm not convinced that many will actually cross over, anyway).

I don't think Obama supporters need to worry about Obama retiring Hillary's debt.  But they should worry about being the reason the party won't be united by continuing to make inflammatory remarks about her.

It is time to actually heal, not keep ripping at the scar.



Straw men (Lowell - 5/15/2008 4:53:33 PM)
However, angry Obama supporters, who are the polar opposite of his message, are in danger of alienating her many supporters, who will be needed in November.

Who are all these supposedly "angry Obama supporters?"  In exit poll after exit poll, it looks to me like there are a lot more Clinton supporters who say they will never vote for Obama than Obama supporters who say they will never vote for Clinton.  Anyway, who are these people you keep talking about, and who drove you from Obama to Hillary a couple months ago?  I've never figured that out, seems to me like what we've got here is plenty of good and bad to go around, but mainly what we've got is a major common enemy -- John McCain and the Republicans -- who we need to start fighting immediately.



Hmmm - The Facts Don't Add Up (Matt H - 5/16/2008 12:15:06 PM)
Who said "Shame on you Barack Obama"?  Who expressly said that, unlike McCain, Obama was not ready to be commander in chief?  Only in recent days (after she has seen the writing on the wall) has she toned down her rhetoric, in anticipation of her defeat.

I don't recall Obama ever stating that Hillary would not make a good president.

If anything, Obama has been the more mature of the two.