"drip drip drip"?
We are all looking for ways to move forward in this Democratic Primary process and we should be respectful of all of the candidates that worked so hard for our support this cycle. Ingrid, lets be fair and respectful to Senator Clinton as we move forward

I have said before I "had" great respect for HRC. However, the gas tax, Carville, Iran, et. has made me wonder- what the heck has happened to her.
Is it "fair and respectful" to constantly smear the candidate, the campaign, and what I think is the worst- the supporters. Slamming other Democrats is NOT "fair and respectful", Ben.
AS for "fair and respectful", was Carville's "Judas" comment "fair or respectful"? Were all of your posts that were scathing towards Obama "respectful"?
As for the way she ran, I have seen tactics from her campaign that Lee Atwater couldn't have dreamed of...and this from a Democrat?!?!?!?!

Look, the Clintons brought me into the party and were both heroes to me. Now I'm very saddened and disappointed in both of them. I expected better from them and feel very let down. I spent a great part of the 1990s defending the hell out of them.

So, I'm sorry if I'm not constructing a shrine for her or shedding any tears. She alienated me and many others months ago.

I rated this a "2" because I see nothing at all "unfair" or "disrespectful" about Ingrid's post.

As for Jennifer McClellan, I'm sure this was a hard decision for her to make and I greatly admire her hard work on behalf of the Clinton campaigns. She is a class act and hopefully a future governor:-)

can I ask you why I should be respectful of her?  Neither Hillary nor her supporters (who by a larger number say they will not support Obama despite him not reciprocating Hillary's tactics) have shown much respect towards Obama.  One thing we all can agree on is that this has been a nasty campaign.  I think it is also fair to say that Hillary Clinton has been the overwhelming source of the negativity.  Editorialists who endorsed her think this true (NYT), former supporters of hers believe it is true (look at all the defections), and even one of her top fundraisers believes it is true.  How much longer must we sit back and play nice with the Clintons while they degrade and attempt to destroy Obama by any means at their disposal?

I know there are some who will say we have to take the moral high ground and not resort to the same tactics as  Clinton has.  This is a very fair point and a rule I think should be followed as much as possible.  However, I also think it is human nature for Obama supporters to enjoy seeing Hillary Clinton's campaign take political hits after all she has done over the past few months.  If someone continues to insult you without even aknowledging they are wrong or offering an apology, when do you think it is time to say enough?  Whether you call it Karma or "reaping what you sow," Hillary is getting back everything she did.  While I don't think Obama should retaliate by using the same methods as Clinton, I also don't mind seeing her lose.  

You state:

Neither Hillary nor her supporters (who by a larger number say they will not support Obama despite him not reciprocating Hillary's tactics) have shown much respect towards Obama.

Are you kidding me? First, I personally object to this. I am a Hillary supporter and have not once shown disrespect t Obama or anyone simply by virtue of the fact that they support him.

Not as hillary for that matter. For some reason, Obama supporters viewed every critcism as unfair an d over the line. apparently, the only criticisms of Obama that were permitted had to be Obama-approved.

Then you say:

I think it is also fair to say that Hillary Clinton has been the overwhelming source of the negativity.

Actually, it is even more fair to say that the candidate who is behind tends to be more negative than the candidate in the lead. When Obama was behind and trying to get attention, he (along with Edwards) were way more negative than Clinton.

Then you say:

I know there are some who will say we have to take the moral high ground and not resort to the same tactics as  Clinton has.

love the use of the word "some" here. Holy strawman, Batman! I doubt many Clinton supporters think that, since we would content that Obama supporters do not occupy the moral high ground. Rather, there has been a hard-fought campaign in which both candidates and campaigns have had both high and low moments.

As for this:

However, I also think it is human nature for Obama supporters to enjoy seeing Hillary Clinton's campaign take political hits after all she has done over the past few months.

Well, you have a pretty dim view of human nature for such a young person (I base that on your graduation year, BTW -- maybe you are not young. But you still have a dim view of human nature.).

And finally,  you state:

Whether you call it Karma or "reaping what you sow," Hillary is getting back everything she did.

I can only quote John,

Instant karma's gonna get you,
It's gonna knock you right in the head.

that is why.

You can be as nasty as you want though.  Lord knows a lot of people on here already take that liberty and feel that they have every right to.  She makes poor decisions sure, as does everyone.  Anyone is free to criticize her decisions and that is fair.  But to revel in her despair or find some pleasure in her getting her due, that seems wrong.

but it will take a couple of hours.  I have to run out and do a few things.  Before I go, I can say that I was wrong when I oversimplified and said Hillary Clinton supporters have not shown Obama much respect.  I will correct that now and that there are a lot of them who haven't.  Those like aznew have shown great class and tact through this whole primary season.  

I got a little feisty there, moreso than I usually do here. I hope I didn't offend. I genuinely value the intelligently and sincerely offered opinions of those with whom I don't agree on RK, like yours.  

I enjoy a good heated debate on the issues facing our country.  You are an excellent debater and your diverse opinions add a lot to this site.

I really am going to type something else up in a couple of hours or so because I feel I need to explain why I feel as strongly as I do (I am celebrating the completion of undergrad so work with me ;-) )  

I didn't mean any disrespect towards Sen. Clinton.  I could, if I wanted to, as I agree with the comments by uva08 above.  But I chose not to, because I think that Sen. Clinton is an admirable public servant and I realize the sacrifice one must make to run for office.  

The super delegate support for Sen. Obama has slowly been dripping in, like a slow flow in a faucet, hence the title of the post. I admit that I did jump for joy when I saw Jennifer's name on the list.  Having said that, I have never failed to vote for a candidate I did not support in a Primary and I will happily vote for Sen. Clinton should she win the nomination.

It didn't bother me as a Hillary supporter, (Not to dis Adam). You are clearly just excited for your (our :)) candidate, and that is a good thing, IMHO.

I do get bothered at some of the more nasty stuff I see, and the apparent glee some people take in her defeat. She fought hard for what she believed in, and given how close she and Obama are on so many issues, for what many progressives believe in as well.  

Aznew, I also wanted to say that you have shown so much class. You advocated strongly for your candidate but remained fair throughout. Even when I disagreed with you, I respected your stance. You were objective and thoughtful in your arguments.

I'm not "happy" for HRC's fate. I feel bad for her and her campaign staffers. It's heartbreaking to put your life on hold and give your blood, sweat, and tears to a campaign and then lose.
I am excited for Obama, but feel strong emphathy towards the Clinton supporters. It was a tough fight and I wish things had not been so heated (on both sides) at times.

and we all could if we wanted to too. But we choose not to for the reasons you stated. Thanks ingrid.

I will again say this though -- there is a serious issue that both candidates will need to overcome if they get the nomination -- and since it looks like your candidate is going to get the nomination, it is something everyone needs to start thinking about. In order to win, he will need the hillary supporters in november. Since I have launched www.voteboth.com with a few friends -- I have recieved hundreds of emails saying they will not vote for Obama no matter what. Let me be clear -- that is not how I feel.
When I make the argument that if HRC was on the ticket with him they would still be able to vote for her and put her in the WH, they slowly come around. So I agree to disagree with many on this site who think someone else should be Obama's VP. Either way, I think if he secures this nomination he should offer it to her. This is a huge problem that isn't going to be fixed just by confetti falling at the convention and everyone coming "home"

I have taken some time to think about what everyone posted.  Let me just say that I am not reveling in Clinton's defeat and that I do not take pleasure in her pain.  However, I am not going to lie to you all and say I respect her as a politician or public servant because I don't.  I respect her many past deeds, but I do not respect who she has become.  I can be disingenuous and tell you all that I think she generally has good character, but the truth is that I do not like Hillary Clinton.  I do not respect her campaign tactics and her apparent belief that it is acceptable to say and do anything to win elected office.  

There are some who claim that they both candidates have had their "high and low" points during the primary season.  The underlying claim here is that both have been equally negative in how they conducted their campaign.  This, however, is simply not true in my view and in the opinion of many others.  I have pointed to the defections from the Clinton campaign and Gabriel Guerra-Mondragon (a top Clinton fundraiser).  According to the polls, voters also think Clinton has been more negative than Obama in her attacks.  I decided to look through some exit polls to see how voters felt about the tone of the campaign.  CNN asks its respondents to say whether a particular candidate "attacked unfairly."  I focused my attention on exit polls from states where Hillary Clinton had the strongest margins as I am sure the numbers will be inflated against her in states she lost (like they were deflated in these states).  I even decided I wouldn't look at the close states to get an idea of weak or strong the sentiment is.  The results show that in Tennessee, Massachusetts, Oklahoma, and New York, more voters (even if by one point) agreed that Hillary "unfairly attacked" Obama than those who believed that he had "unfairly attacked" her.  In New York, a majority of voters actually agreed that she "unfairly attacked" him whereas only forty percent believed the same about Obama.  In states that Clinton did not win by as large of a margin, the results are even more unfavorable for her.  Even if you assume that in these states all Obama supporters and those who voted for someone else said Hillary attacked unfairly, that still means a percentage of Clinton supporters also agreed with the statement.  I think this demonstrates that it is not only Obama supporters who feel Hillary has crossed the line more times than Obama and more blatantly than Obama.

The wording of the CNN question brings me to my next point ("attacked unfairly").  I don't have any issue with Hillary debating Obama on policy and matters that relate to being president, but I do have a big problem with personal and non-policy related attacks.  Hillary was wrong for exploiting the Wright issue.  She was wrong for accusing Obama of being a plagiarist.  She was wrong attacking Obama for winning states that "don't matter" (which includes Virginia btw).  

Finally, and most importantly for me, her exploitation of racial and cultural divisions have transformed me from someone who admired the Clintons to one who wants neither to ever hold public office again. I have studied much history during my time in college.  One recurrent theme in politics has been the use of racial divisions to stir up resentment and divide the nation for political gain.  It can be seen in the time from the Redemption era (and before) to Nixon's Southern Strategy, and all the way up to the Willie Horton ad in the 1980s and the Harold Ford ad in 2006.  These political tactics do more than capture a few votes for one candidate or the other. They also inflict deep wounds on America and may cause irreparable harm in our quest to achieve racial conciliation.  Have we not seen how much agony and pain has been caused by racial resentment?  Was the enslavement of blacks not enough?  Was the internment of Japanese American not enough?  Were the racist and vile laws enacted in the South not enough?  Is the resentment many whites feel towards black students at highly ranked colleges and universities not enough?  Were the acts of violence and intimidation that took place on this campus a couple of years ago not enough?  Is the deeply held animosity many people today still hold for other races not enough for these candidates to stop using race a means to divide and conquer the electorate?  

This is not just an issue I have read about or distantly observed.  My family knows all too well the evils of racism.  After hearing their stories, I do not take the issue of race lightly.  It is very personal for me and more than just some political tool a candidate can use to win a few votes.  I do not claim to speak for all blacks, but this is how I and many people I know and love feel personally.  Whether it was Bill Clinton's comment before South Carolina or Hillary Clinton's recent comments to USA Today, I am incredibly angry that they have resorted to using race as a way to win an election.  They are using political tactics that has caused so much pain and anguish in this nation albeit in a much diluted form.  I do not believe these two individuals are racist or racially resentful.  I think that in general the Clintons have been far more restrained in their use of race than politicitans in the past.  However, that does not excuse them engage in the type of politics they have.

This is a brief explanation of why I feel so strongly.  This is about something much deeper than a political campaign.  It is about rectifying wrongs of the past and not repeating them.  It is about my future and the world I want to see.  I hope all politicians will wake up one day and stop taking advantage of our differences and divisions.

very well.  Thank you.

we should talk about how 31% of ohio voters that supported hillary say they will never vote for obama. or the 35% of indiana voters that supported hillary that say they will never vote for obama. what are your suggestions on how we fix this? our party leaders continue to say they will come home in the fall, but i talk to these voters every single day, and they are very, very serious. i welcome all ideas and suggestions, as i said above i have put myself out there to gather support for them to run together. and i know that 99% of those on this site don't support that. If I wasn't a hillary supporter, I too would probably be saying webb. but the fact is hillary supporters aren't going anywhere, and they are needed to win.

#1. Give it time.
#2. Watch that percentage fall after Hillary strongly endorses and campaigns for Barack Obama.
#3. Give Hillary a role on a substantive policy issue like health care.
#4. Pick a VP who is on good terms with both camps, someone like...Jim Webb!

Some of what you write I agree with, much of I simply think you are reading the situation wrong. But I can now see where you are coming from.

Really, one of the better posts I've seen here.