I Don't Trust Zogby but....

By: Lowell
Published On: 3/3/2008 7:18:54 AM

...check out this morning's latest poll results.

Texas: Obama 47%-Clinton 44%
"...in the key swing area of east Texas, Obama has surged into a tie with Clinton."

Ohio: Obama 47%-Clinton 45%
"Obama leads Clinton among men by a 54% to 39% margin, while Clinton leads Obama among women by a 51% to 42% edge. The Obama increase in support among men is likely what has moved him ahead of Clinton."

Thoughts?

UPDATE: Rasmussen has Clinton up 50%-44% in Ohio, Obama up 48%-47% in Texas.

UPDATE #2: Chris Cillizza asks, did the "3 AM" ad work?


Comments



Just a couple thoughts... (TMSKI - 3/3/2008 7:58:31 AM)
After viewing Stephanapolis yesterday I have even greater distain for team Clinton and their machine / operatives. Hillary is getting hip TV coverage on SNL and the Daily Show .... some how I think it's weak to vote for a presidential candidate out of sympathy ... but it seems that is her subtle tact regarding these appearances.

If Tuesday goes for Clinton even marginally .... there will be enough excuse for the Clintonistas to take it to the convention regardless of the delegate count.

Clinton insults me every time she says Obama is just a great speech and an empty suit. Hillary does not inspire me and Billary lurking in the background makes me cringe.

I'm calling anybody I know (Rhode Island) and people I don't know via the Obama website to vote Obama!!

Oh yeah ... thank God for the youth of this country ... they give me HOPE!



just ... (Alokin - 3/3/2008 8:07:19 AM)
... although I feel bad correcting you once more, the numbers given for Ohio are 45% for Clinton.

Thoughts? Well, I guess we won't know until after the vote. It's so close now. What worries me a little more is the Canada/NAFTA thing that now hit the news with some "document". Makes these numbers even more vulnerable.  



Thanks for the correction. (Lowell - 3/3/2008 8:23:22 AM)
And I agree, we won't know until after the vote.  Stay tuned...


document makes no diff in TX (teacherken - 3/3/2008 9:11:31 AM)
at most marginal in OH


Only a day and a half now... (ericy - 3/3/2008 8:34:15 AM)

until we get the results of the only poll that matters.  In the meantime, I think I am going to go about my usual business for the day, and not stress about this poll or that poll...


49%-45% Clinton in Ohio poll by Quinnipiac University (Lowell - 3/3/2008 9:18:09 AM)
New York Sen. Hillary Clinton's margin over Sen. Barack Obama among Ohio likely Democratic primary voters has shrunk to 49 - 45 percent on the eve of the state's March 4 balloting, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

     This compares to a 55 - 34 percent Sen. Clinton lead in a February 14 poll by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University and a 51 - 40 percent lead February 25.

     Sen. Obama has made gains in the last week especially among men and black voters.

     The gender gap is a key factor in this latest survey, as women support Sen. Clinton 55 - 39 percent, while men back Sen. Obama by a mirror image 55 - 39 percent margin.  Clinton's strength among lower income voters, 50 - 44 percent, and among older voters, 55 - 39 percent, also gives her an edge over Obama.

     The Illinois Senator leads 58 - 37 percent among voters under 45.  He also gets 90 percent of the black vote, while Clinton leads 60 - 34 percent among whites.

     "The profiles of the Clinton voter and the Obama voter in Ohio are almost mirror images," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.  "Men are for him; women for her.  Those higher on the socio-economic scale are for him; those lower for her. Older people are for her; younger voters for him.

     "The big unknown is turnout.  It's not just whether it is higher than normal, which everyone expects it to be.  The key question is whether turnout is disproportionately higher among some demographic groups than others."

     Among white men, Obama gets 47 percent to Clinton's 46 percent, while  Clinton holds a 68 - 26 percent lead among white women.

     "Sen. Clinton always has had a gender gap, but the 22-point difference between her support among white men and white women is extraordinary," said Brown.  "She is ahead overall because women have made up 55 to 60 percent of primary voters in most Democratic primaries.  That is a considerable advantage for her."

     Clinton's margin among those without college degrees, which had been 57 - 34 percent February 25, has narrowed to 51 - 43 percent.   Obama's support among those with sheepskins, which had been 58 - 33 percent in the last survey, also has dropped, to 49 - 45 percent.

     Self-identified Democrats voting in this primary give Clinton a 49 - 44 percent margin, while independents who are likely to vote in the Democratic primary go 50 percent for Obama and 48 percent for Clinton.

     "Sen. Clinton is still ahead, but her presidential ambitions depend on whether those who have been her supporters resist jumping on the Obama bandwagon and go to the polls for her," said Brown.

     There is strong loyalty for both candidates, with 88 percent of Clinton supporters and 86 percent of Obama backers saying their mind is made up.

     From February 27 - March 2, Quinnipiac University surveyed 799 Ohio likely Democratic primary voters with a margin of error of +/- 3.5 percent.

     The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in Florida, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Ohio and the nation as a public service and for research.

     For more data -- http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x271... or call (203) 582-5201.



In general (sndeak - 3/3/2008 12:58:59 PM)
More women than men vote in the Democratic primary. The lead among men needs to be about 60% in Ohio for me to even start feeling even a little bit confident.


other polls disagree (teacherken - 3/3/2008 2:07:34 PM)
public policy has Clinton ahead in TX,and before people dismiss it, remember, they had Obama winning by 13 in WI, which was as close as anyone came.   SUSA has Clinton up 10 in OH.

Even allowing for the fact that she polls better over weekends than during the week, there seems to be some evidence that she gained some ground in both states

In OH, her lead in early voting is such that he would have to win 52048 or thereabouts on election day in order to pull OH out.  Remember, their early voting started before the Potomac primaries so she may have been able to bank some votes

I tend to put less reliance into TX polls because I'm not sure anyone has a handle on the real shape of the electorate, which can make a huge difference either way.



My thoughts (Silence Dogood - 3/3/2008 5:43:32 PM)
I suspect Clinton benefits from a perpetual drumbeat of bad economic news.  The selection of her earlier ads (and the issues from Obama's ads) leads me to conclude that both campaigns have her polling ahead with voters who list the economy as their #1 issue.

I'd like to believe that tomorrow is the last day of this campaign, but I'm hedging my bets today.  We'll see what happens.