I Thought Republicans Didn't Believe in This

By: Lowell
Published On: 2/20/2008 8:30:56 AM

Wait a minute, I thought Republicans didn't believe in raiding the "rainy-day fund" to pay for brand new programs at a time of dire fiscal problems and revenue shortfalls.  Whoops, it looks like they do, at least in cases where they've made promises that would be extremely embarrassing to break:

Cash-strapped Prince William County nearly cleaned out its rainy-day fund yesterday to pay for the start-up cost of increasing law enforcement directed at illegal immigrants.

[...]

The decision to dip into reserves is unusual, and shows how Prince William is having difficulty financing the crackdown on illegal immigration since the board approved it in October. The rainy-day fund is normally used to offset revenue shortfalls or match grant funds; the county has a separate emergency fund for such expenses as natural disasters.

"It is certainly unusual for the board to use this money to start a new program," said County Executive Craig S. Gerhart.

So, I presume that General Assembly Republicans will now support raiding the state's "rainy-day fund" to pay for Tim Kaine's pre-kindergarten program?  I mean, that would only be consistent, and we know Republicans claim to like consistency.  Right?


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You're absolutely right. (Va Blogger2 - 2/20/2008 10:06:13 AM)
PWC Republicans equal all Republicans. We all think with one mind.

Since you support Governor Kaine using the "rainy day fund" to pay for his pet projects, do you also support this initiative? After all, Kaine was elected with a mandate from the people, as were the leaders of PWC. Stewart was elected largely on an anti-illegal immigration platform. Clearly, he is executing the will of the people.

So you support the PWC plan, correct? You wouldn't want to be inconsistent.



Make a serious argument (Lowell - 2/20/2008 10:10:40 AM)
and I'll reply.  This isn't one.


Okay, a serious argument: (Va Blogger2 - 2/20/2008 10:58:48 AM)
Not all Republicans support the actions of the PWC Board. You can't so easily generalize us like that. If those that voted for and supported this measure also oppose Kaine's recent actions, then yes, they are being inconsistent. But that doesn't mean all Republicans are inconsistent.


Now, the straw man. (Lowell - 2/20/2008 11:00:09 AM)
Red herrings, smoke and mirrors, now a straw man.  So, where did anyone argue that "all Republicans support the actions of the PWC Board?"  Right, they didn't.  So much for that "serious argument."


Fair enough. (Va Blogger2 - 2/20/2008 11:01:27 AM)
Not "all Republicans". Just all Republicans in the GA, and by extention, their Republican supporters:

So, I presume that General Assembly Republicans will now support raiding the state's "rainy-day fund" to pay for Tim Kaine's pre-kindergarten program?  I mean, that would only be consistent, and we know Republicans claim to like consistency.  Right?

Were the Republicans in the General Assembly responsible or related at all to the actions of the PWC Board?



I want to hear the Republican House leadership (Lowell - 2/20/2008 11:03:24 AM)
comment on the PWC raiding its "rainy day fund" to pay for a NEW program, since the House Republican leadership has made this a matter of high principle -- don't ever touch the "rainy day fund" to pay for new programs of any kind.


So Republicans in the GA *aren't* being inconsistent. (Va Blogger2 - 2/20/2008 11:22:22 AM)
You're just assuming that they would be. I understand now.


Fear-mongering working? (Doug in Mount Vernon - 2/20/2008 6:15:34 PM)
I have it from folks in the latino community including lawyers who serve the community and Spanish radio show hosts, that Spanish-speaking people, legal or not, are leaving PWC in droves.  Many of them are unable to sell homes, and as a result, the PWC economy is absolutely tanking--especially the tax revenues.  Some are declaring bankruptcy.  So you see, this hate and fear mongering against members of their own community does affect others elsewhere, but fortunately, it's their own community they're irreparably harming most of all.

Nice work, ignorant a-holes.  But, you get what you deserve.  Downgraded respect and reputation for ignorance, arguably the worst real estate market in the state, and plummeting tax revenues.

That's anti-illegal-immigration fervor at its finest!

Well done, Corey!  You've displayed about as much competence as George W Bush....well, not quite...



Sort of like (Lowell - 2/20/2008 6:26:30 PM)
this?


Exactly! (Doug in Mount Vernon - 2/20/2008 6:33:11 PM)
Only in PWC there is really even NO legal teeth for them to actually do ANYTHING to anyone who is not breaking the law.  And that is most immigrants.

But it doesn't matter, as especially when the fever-pitched hatred and hysteria reach into the messages broadcast even in the Spanish-speaking media, they get the message--not welcome.

It is one of the most shameful displays I've ever seen in politics, and I've seen my share of that in Virginia.



Oh yeah.... (Doug in Mount Vernon - 2/20/2008 6:29:48 PM)
And after all that hot air and rhetoric about immigrants using more in tax revenues than they contribute.....how f-ing ironic is this!

Since 90% of what PWC wanted to do if it legally could, can not in fact, be done, legally or even logically, what the hell do they think they're actually accomplishing?  Certainly their aims had much more to do with making a propserous and important minority population feel unwelcome than it did with cleaning up neighborhoods or restricting access to taxpayer-funded services.  Clearly, it appears to be working not to correct legitimate concerns but to SCARE and INTIMIDATE its immigrant population.  That will be a shame that PWC will be stuck with as long as its known as the miserable hatemongering county government it has become.

What PWC (Stewart) wanted to do according to some of the statements of Corey Stewart himself in 2007 was akin to "they should all be afraid of being deported by us" holding random racially-profiled round-ups and checking of documentation/papers based mostly on appearance as a foreign individual--and mostly Hispanic individuals.  They will swear up and down this kind of racial profiling was not the issue or intention.  Who the F do they think they're foolin'?  It is absolutely obvious this is what would happen, best intentions not to happen, or not.

Clearly not only are they ignorant of the real contributions that Hispanic people have been making to PWC and the real sustenance of the PWC economy that they anchored, but they themselves are going to suffer the most for their irrational fear and ignorance.  To that end, indeed, serves them right.

But unfortunately, many Spanish-speaking people in PWC do not realize that it is illegal for PWC to conduct such random checks or round-ups, and that they have NO POWER to detain or deport people who are living law-abiding lives.  As a result, they are driving them all away, legal AND illegal, law-abiding or not.  And that is both PWCs tragedy, and its undoing.

Sorry for the language, but these haters are some stupid f*ckers.



It's the "Blame Pedro" strategy (Lowell - 2/20/2008 6:34:04 PM)
See Rolling Stone for the whole story, including some classic quotes by Republicans like:

Grover Norquist, a top ally of Karl Rove, believes that the "vicious" rhetoric by GOP candidates could prompt Hispanics to flee "in droves" to the Democrats. "Talking about a strong border is one thing," Norquist says. "It's when you get into enforcing the law - which means deport - that you lose people's votes. Oddly enough, people resent the idea that you might throw their mother out of the country."

or

This issue is destroying the Republican Party of the West and Southwest - annihilating it wholesale," says Richard Nadler, president of the archconservative think tank Americas Majority.

or

Norquist points to an even more dire precedent: In 1884, the GOP attacked Democrats as the party of Romanism. "It cost them the Roman Catholic vote for 110 years," he says. "So it is entirely possible for a political party to be that stupid. It is my hope that it is not possible for a party to be that stupid twice."

or

And while immigrant-bashing drives Hispanics away from the GOP, it doesn't boost turnout among white voters. "Find me in America somebody who wasn't planning on voting for the Republicans who will now vote for the Republicans because they're more aggressive on immigration," says Norquist. "There isn't such a person. It's not that there aren't a lot of them. There isn't one!"


One more quote by Norquist (Lowell - 2/20/2008 6:35:42 PM)
At every event, says Norquist, the candidates "get further and further right - it's not even right, it's just further and further hostile - trying to outdo each other. They somehow think that by putting the word 'illegal' in front of immigrant, they've cleared themselves of any ethnocentric bigotry: 'Oh, I'm only against the illegal ones.' Ha."