Hillary's Unintentionally Hilarious Virginia Endorsement List

By: Scripple
Published On: 2/4/2008 5:50:18 PM

Hillary Clinton has just released her "steering committee" for Virginia, and while there are some prominent names on there, some of the titles are -- to put it mildly -- stretching it a little.

Compare this list to the recent legislative endorsements that Barack Obama got from the Virginia State Senate and the Virginia House of Delegates.  Hillary's looks a little anemic, no?
Aside from the various "Democratic Activists" (how generic is that) here are some of the more specific titles of the Virginians on Hillary Clinton's steering committee:

"Former Treasurer, University of Virginia Democrats"

"Frmr. Member, Virginia Commonwealth Univ. Student Senate"

"Treasurer, Fairfax County Young Democrats"

"Student Government Representative, College of William and Mary"

"President of the Environmental Law Society, College of William & Mary Law School"

"Chief of Staff to Delegate Lionell Spruill"

"Frmr. VA Tech College Dems. Board Member & VA Tech Student Gov't Executive"

I don't mean any disrespect, but this is a Presidential Campaign, right?  As Barack Obama is rolling out legislative endorsements, Hillary Clinton is listing student council representatives who have endorsed her? Does her campaign think this is a good contrast for them to be making?


Comments



Ha, this is funny! (Lowell - 2/4/2008 5:57:51 PM)
Thanks for the laugh. :)


Great points... (MikeSizemore - 2/4/2008 6:46:12 PM)
Also, as a former Virginia Tech Young Democrat, it is just that- the YOUNG DEMOCRATS at Virginia Tech, not College Dems. There is a big difference as both are completely separate parent organizations.


didn't they read this before sending it out? (Scripple - 2/4/2008 6:50:00 PM)
NGB just posted this on another thread:

My wife is on the list if Clinton supporters that make up her "committee"
1.  They spelled her first name wrong (it is Megan, not Meghan)

2.  They got her last name wrong.  It is Crain, not Thornton.

3.  They never asked her to "be on this committee"

4.  She doesn't even remember signing anything saying she was a Clinton supporter (though unfortunately she is)

5.  The fact that my wife, who hasn't done anything in VA politics in 3 years (except volunteer for Chap) is on their list b/c they couldn't find enough other supporters.

The sad truth of the Clinton Campaign.

Looks like the Hillary campaign can't afford to hire staffers to do some fact-checking.  Maybe if they had raised $32 million in January like Obama, they'd have been able to...



THANK YOU (RoCoDemsPrez - 2/6/2008 4:59:58 PM)
God, I wish more people understood the difference.

Here at Roanoke College, outsiders (no names mentioned) and the media are constantly calling us the "Roanoke College Young Democrats". It's a pet peeve of mine.

That being said, now I sort of wish I had endorsed Hillary so my name could be on the website.



Excellent list Scripple. (NGB - 2/4/2008 7:38:30 PM)
One other note:

They mention Liz Howard:

Liz Howard, Co-Founder, National Democratic Law Students Council (Williamsburg)

I'm sure she didn't form the National Democratic Law Students, just helped form the W&M Law Students.

Big difference.



Hmm.. (legacyofmarshall - 2/4/2008 9:11:41 PM)
That "Student Government Representative" from William & Mary is a a friend of mine.  She worked for Clinton in New Hampshire over winter break, and tomorrow she's coming to my room for a Super Tuesday party, to see the beginning of the end of her candidate.


Douglas Wilder . . . (JPTERP - 2/4/2008 10:15:40 PM)
Don't forget that he has also endorsed Barack Obama.

http://virginiadem.wordpress.c...



Hold on a minute... (elevandoski - 2/4/2008 11:40:48 PM)
Four of those people are good personal friends of mine: Ollie Bates, Phyllis Anders, Sylvia Ellis and Sandra Brandt.  These are very hard working Democratic volunteers who have given a lot for the cause for many, many years. No, they are not powerful office holders - just the local heroes instead.  Many an elected in Virginia wouldn't be an elected if not for their hard work and dedication. Sure, Obama has more wow factor on his list. Great for him! But lets no disparage our fellow Dems this way.      


well, Eileen (BooYah - 2/5/2008 12:04:19 AM)
Scripple does say at the top that there are some prominent names on there.

And don't you think that it's insulting to some of those local heroes that they're listed alongside student council representatives, just so Hillary's people could pad a press release?



You're right Eileen (AnonymousIsAWoman - 2/6/2008 10:41:18 PM)
Other names I noticed include Peggy Kugler, an activist who was the heart and soul of the 11th CD for years before moving to another district.  There was never a time you couldn't call Peggy for help on a campaign, a fundraiser or anything.  There's also Eleanor Saslow, wife of the Virginia Senate Majority Leader; Sharon Stark, Treasurer of the 11th CD, and host extraordinaire who has opened her home for fundraising events to most of our candidates; her husband Seth Stark; author John Grisham; and Retired Lt. Col. USAF, Kate Wilder, who stood beside Jim Webb two years ago when he was accused of bias against women in the military, and whom this very blog tried to draft to run for office last year.

Come on guys, you don't have to denigrate and tear down other great Democrats who have given so much to this party and who are our friends.

Every campaign puts out lists of those who endorse them. Obama has his too and it's impressive too.



Booyah, (Isaac Sarver - 2/5/2008 1:48:48 AM)

Don't you think it's insulting to deride young people who have chosen to participate in the political process, albeit not for the candidate you're supporting, by insinuating that long-time Democratic activists should take offense to being on the same list of supporters?

Respect is a two way street... I respect the long-time activists willing to stake their years of service to the Democratic Party on Hillary's campaign, and respect student council representatives willing to expend what influence they have gained to show their support for a candidate in a tough primary battle.



COMMENT HIDDEN (BooYah - 2/5/2008 11:57:44 AM)


Don't you think it's insulting (Lowell - 2/5/2008 12:05:35 PM)
to say that I'm intending to "deride young people..." when that's totally not the case?  I couldn't have more respect for the Barbara Kreykenbohs of the world.  Just taking Barbara for an example, she was one of the most extraordinary volunteers for the Webb campaign, and I will be forever grateful to her for that. In fact, I think most of the people on Clinton's list are wonderful people.  But there are two glaring exceptions, and I'm very surprised they're on there.  


If I may Lowell, it is Barbara KreykenbohM (soccerdem - 2/6/2008 9:37:30 AM)
I have known Barbara Kreykenbohm for 20 years.  My wife, Dianne, sat beside her equally intelligent and accomplished husband Bill for many years, and we all became good friends.  Barbara has always been one of the finest Democratic activist in Virginia. I remember with fondness Barbara's incredible enthusiasm and support for Al Gore way back into the 80s and some of the lively discussions that we all had about Democratic politics.  Here is just one biography of Barbara:

Barbara Kreykenbohm is a Mission Planning and Integration Manager in the NASA Headquarters Office of Biological and Physical Research (OBPR), Mission Integration Division. Her special assignment to the Station and Shuttle Utilization Reinvention Team was preceded by special assignments with the NASA Utilization Management Concept Development Team and two sessions as a Congressional legislative aide, one with Senator Maria Cantwell and one with Congressman Bart Gordon. Previously, she managed Space Product Development programs for OBPR and Space Station utilization requirements for the Office of Space Access and Technology. In earlier assignments at NASA Headquarters, she managed concept development programs including the Orbital Transfer Vehicle and the Assured Crew Return Vehicle. Ms. Kreykenbohm came to NASA Headquarters from Marshall Space Flight Center where she began her career as a research chemist in the Space Sciences Laboratory. Prior to her NASA career she taught physics at Virgil I Grissom High School in Huntsville, Alabama.

Barbara is the epitome of an well-rounded, intelligent, and accomplished woman and I'm so proud to say that she is supporting Hillary Clinton.  And, if the above hasn't impressed you, here are her google results, where you'll also fine she's a softball enthusiast and an accomplished photographer!



Damn, I thought I'd double checked (Lowell - 2/6/2008 9:46:00 AM)
the spelling.  I hate when that happens!


I See I'm Going To Have To Schedule A Press Conference (BP - 2/5/2008 12:46:32 PM)
Now that Edwards has left the race, I've migrated to the Obama camp.  I thought I would simply tell a few friends and do some volunteer work for Obama.  However, now that I've seen Hillary's list, I feel that as a former Student Council President, former Democratic Committeeman, former Democratic Legislative Assistant, and current Marginally-Active RK Commenter, it's my responsibility to make a public announcement at a press conference on my front porch.  

As soon as I hire a Press Secretary and a Netroots Blog Outreach Coordinator, I'll have them provide RK with an advance copy of my remarks.



hahahaha (Scripple - 2/5/2008 1:30:55 PM)
You just gave me a big laugh on a day when I'm nervous!  Thank you!


Thanks so much... (lgb30856 - 2/5/2008 2:26:32 PM)
...for degrading the people on that list, some of whom I know. They are hard working people who have worked on campaigns for Kaine, Webb, Miller.
So... all the elected people, who have those same people working their arses off for them, are the only ones who get the glory?
You should be ashamed. You just made a complete fool of yourself.


I'm surprised (Scripple - 2/5/2008 4:24:34 PM)
I'm surprised that these "friends" (read: Hillary partisans) aren't more pissed off that their endorsements are included on a list with some of these titles.  If you've worked your butt off helping Virginia Democrats get elected, it's insulting to be included on a list with a college newspaper columnist and a former student council representative.


Friends... (lgb30856 - 2/5/2008 6:12:05 PM)
You seemed more pissed off than anyone. What's your problem? That your name is not on the list?
Go out and volunteer and do something constructive.


Hmm (SW Democrat - 2/6/2008 8:02:49 AM)
Hnn


Those Students...and the Kennedys (soccerdem - 2/6/2008 10:06:53 AM)
Ain't it funny that the very class of people Obama so depended upon to spread his message of "hope" and "change" and "transformation" is the same group that is derided when they show support for Hillary.  When called on this we see the usual "we are not demeaning them...but (whisper) they sure are schmucks.  It's almost as if Rush is now the propagandist of the Democratic Party.

AND...THANK YOU, KENNEDYS.  I wish I could personally thank the Kennedy family for supporting Hillary in the Mass primary.  Their unabashed endorsement of the more experienced candidate surely won her the state.  Being an ex-resident of Mass years ago (Needham and Maynard, but often visiting Boston), I knew the life of a combat veteran while working there, because I often frequented the combat zone (for investigative purposes, of course).  I liked the state and Boston, those lobsters and prime ribs and the Lehayne-type people, and I like it even more today.

   



Hah (Scripple - 2/6/2008 11:48:02 AM)
The spin from the Hillary people would be sad if it wasn't so pathetic.

Obama was down by 30 points in the polls in Massachusetts -- a state which borders Hillary's home state.  The eventual margin was half that.

Super Tuesday was designed by Terry McAuliffe to help Hillary lock up the nomination.  Instead, Obama won more states than her, and won more delegates than her!

Super Tuesday was her last shot to stop Obama's momentum, and she failed. Now Obama has:

1) A huge money advantage
2) State-by-state contests where he can erase her name-ID advantage
3) The excitement on his side!



and (Scripple - 2/6/2008 11:49:27 AM)
if you can't see how it looks silly putting out a press release with former student council members and legislative aides in... I'll repeat it... a PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN -- then you really must have drank too much of the Hillary kool-aid.


The problem with the momentum argument is (aznew - 2/6/2008 12:14:00 PM)
that while Obama had a great deal of it coming out of South Carolina, it seemed to have petered out by the weekend.

I thought I heard somewhere last night that late deciders in the primaries (last three days) broke pretty even.

As for who benefits from here on out, that all depends on which way the debate turns. If it is a substantive policy debate, then I say advantage Clinton. If it remains a "change" debate, and an out with the old, in with the new debate, then advantage Obama.

We'll have to see what happens with the money, but the state-by-state contests are a sword that cuts both ways. On the one hand, it perhaps helps Obama in the name ID category (though I don't think that is a huge issue any more for him), but it helps Hillary in the money area.

So, I can understand both sides' spin, but it far overstates the case to say that Hillary's is "pathetic," of that on Super Tuesday she won one-half of the primary states, including the two biggest, and that she is somehow done.



I understand (Scripple - 2/6/2008 12:42:16 PM)
what you're saying, and you make some good points -- the "pathetic" spin I was referring to was that Massachusetts was a big loss for Obama, or that Kennedy/Kerry did nothing for him.  He cut a huge Clinton margin in half in a matter of week.


I don't really under Mass. politics well enough to comment (aznew - 2/6/2008 3:40:06 PM)
but from the perspective of an outsider, it looks like she overcame the odds there, because the Kerry and Kennedy endorsements were national news.

So, yes, reality is at odds with perception in this. But part of it is the fault of Obama, who wanted to get the most mileage he could out of the PR coup of the Kennedy endorsements, and in doing so created a high expectation.



The problem with the momentum argument is (aznew - 2/6/2008 12:14:04 PM)
that while Obama had a great deal of it coming out of South Carolina, it seemed to have petered out by the weekend.

I thought I heard somewhere last night that late deciders in the primaries (last three days) broke pretty even.

As for who benefits from here on out, that all depends on which way the debate turns. If it is a substantive policy debate, then I say advantage Clinton. If it remains a "change" debate, and an out with the old, in with the new debate, then advantage Obama.

We'll have to see what happens with the money, but the state-by-state contests are a sword that cuts both ways. On the one hand, it perhaps helps Obama in the name ID category (though I don't think that is a huge issue any more for him), but it helps Hillary in the money area.

So, I can understand both sides' spin, but it far overstates the case to say that Hillary's is "pathetic," of that on Super Tuesday she won one-half of the primary states, including the two biggest, and that she is somehow done.



Hillary's List (mmc0412 - 2/6/2008 5:27:40 PM)
While I'm not necessarily defending Hillary (I'm in the Obama camp) she's probably putting out a list of young supporters to counter Obama's huge numbers of young supporters.  It's more reactionary to the wave of young folks moving toward Obama than anything.