Why Obama Would Crush McCain in November

By: The Grey Havens
Published On: 1/31/2008 9:02:35 AM

Crossposted with permission from davefromqueens

It appears more and more likely that out of the mainstream, Keating Five, flip flopping, Washington Insider, agree with George W Bush 95% of the time John McCain is going to be the Republican nominee for President.  And while I think Hillary Clinton would defeat him, I think Obama would crush him in a landslide.  Here's why.
1.  The Issues

While John McCain has a few areas of agreement with mainstream America (against torture, recognizes global warming, campaign finance reform), McCain's voting record of anti-middle class economic policies, opposition to civil liberties, supporting Federalist Society justices, and a Halliburton/Blackwater/Chevron/Saudi Arabia based foreign policy is completely out of touch with 70% of America.  On the other hand, Barack Obama's message of pro middle class economics, a pro military security based foreign policy, and protecting our Constitution is in tune with core American values.

2.  Image

This is a change election.  We need a President who is the anti-Bush.  McCain's policies, on 90-95% of the issues, would simply be a continuation of the failed conservative policies of the Bush administration.  Obama would reverse course.  Now think of how these dynamics would play out in November.  Obama comes across as optimistic while McCain comes across as a pessimist.  Obama symbolizes the future while McCain is the symbol of the failed Washington ways of the past.   Obama evokes hope, McCain evokes images of nastiness and meanness.

3.  Obama is moderate, McCain is not.

The biggest myth about John McCain is that he somehow is a moderate because 5-10% of his positions are moderate.  Even John McCain admitted last night that he is a conservative.  On this, John McCain is telling the truth.  It's time moderates and independents BELIEVE him when McCAin says he's a conservative.  McCain has been endorsed by the likes of Phil Grammm and Jack Kemp.  If Gramm and Kemp are moderates, then I am better looking than Robert Redford and Brad Pitt.

4.  Obama will bring 20-30 million new voters into the fold.

Half of America hasn't voted in most prior elections.  I'm willing to bet that 90% of these people are progressive to liberal.  They haven't voted in the past because they've felt that the Democratic Party has simply been the lesser of two evils or a watered down version of Republican Lite.  These voters are OUR voters and if we can give these people something to vote FOR, they will come out in droves.  If we can keep them coming out in droves and sever all relations with DLC types, then we will be a 70% governing party.

Obama inspires these previous non voters to get to the polls.  And if they show up, it's Obama in a landslide.

5.  The Republican Base wants McCain to Lose

At first this statement seems ludicrous and counterintuitive until you think about it more deeply.  Looking beyond the hatred that some Republicans have for McCain, movement conservatives feel that if McCain is the nominee and wins, then conservatism will die out quicker.  They feel that if conservatives (As these wingnuts define it) can't nominate one of their own for the Republican Party, then it would be bad long term for that nominee to win in the short run.  Instead these conservatives would prefer to stay home and simply see McCain lose so they can then claim in 2009 and beyond that the reason why McCain lose was because he wasn't a true conservative.  Thus, in their minds, they would keep alive the faulty argument that conservatism wins elections. Some of these  would even vote for Obama just for this reason.

6.  The Flip Flops

All that a Democrat has to do is play video clips of John McCain saying one thing and then John McCain saying the exact opposite.  The American public, especially moderate voters, do not like someone who votes based on which way the wind is blowing.  This image of McCain as the flip flopper has the potential to crush him in November.

Contrast that to Obama who projects genuineness and clarity.

7.  McCain = Bush

Granted there are a couple of exceptions but 95% of McCain's agenda is Bush's agenda and McCain has surrounded himself with uberconservatives like Phil Gramm and Jack Kemp among others.  McCAin would continue Bush's failed economic policies and would be every bit the warmonger Bush is.  McCain sung a song called Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran and advocates America's presence in Iraq for 100 years.  By simply playing clips of these McCain quotes, McCain's numbers in the polls would freefall.

So there you have it.  


Comments



Meanwhile, here's David Broder (Lowell - 1/31/2008 9:09:13 AM)
writing about the Obama-Clinton matchup (bolding added for emphasis):

...in the past two weeks, there has been a remarkable shift of establishment opinion against [Hillary Clinton] and against the prospect of placing the party's 2008 chances in the hands of her husband, Bill Clinton.

The prominence of his role in New Hampshire and South Carolina, and the mean-spiritedness of his attacks on Obama, stunned many Democrats. Clinton's behavior underlined the warning raised in this column before Iowa, by a prominent veteran of the Clinton administration, that the prospect of two presidents both named Clinton sharing a single White House would be a huge problem for the Democrats in November if Hillary Clinton is the nominee.

The Clintons' negatives have brought much support to Obama, most notably that of Ted Kennedy, the most prestigious figure in the Democratic establishment in Washington. But it is also Obama's own appeal that is being talked about across the country, from Massachusetts to Arizona, by the younger generation of governors, senators and representatives who share with him an eagerness to "turn the page" on the battles of the past.

Obama is not inevitable, but the longer the race continues, the greater that hunger will be. And the growing recognition of McCain's appeal to independents also works in Obama's favor.



This is actually good news for Hillary (aznew - 1/31/2008 11:45:10 AM)
I guess all this will come to pass right after Broder's early 2007 prediction of Bush's resurgence in the polls is finished.

Mission Accomplished!



McSAME (cycle12 - 1/31/2008 9:38:45 AM)
If it hasn't already been spoken or written elsewhere, please allow me to be the first to declare that, if elected, the Republican's current front-running standard-bearer for president will not offer any substantive change in "leadership" from that which we have suffered for the past 7 years, and henceforth and forever should be referred to as...

John McSAME.

Thanks!

Steve



I'm really hopeful, but ..... (TMSKI - 1/31/2008 9:48:37 AM)
You can't count the Clintons out .... that's obvious.

But assuming Senator Obama gets the nomination his first major decision will make all of the difference in the general election. That decision of course is his pick for Vice President. Most folks know little else about candidates, but they always know and gauge the potential president by their VP pick.

Should Hillary win she would be best served by running with Wes Clark (endorsed her early on).

But given Obama's rise, his grassroots connection, his potential for turning the political page, etc. there really is only one choice that would best compliment his candidacy ..... drum roll please:

That VP candidate would be, JIM WEBB!! .... but we knew that already, didn't we.



I see this assertion all over the place: (ericy - 1/31/2008 9:48:52 AM)

Half of America hasn't voted in most prior elections.  I'm willing to bet that 90% of these people are progressive to liberal.

How do we know this?  Is it possible that they are just apolitical - more concerned with Hollywood trivia and sports than anything else?



Yeah, I'm really REALLY skeptical about (Lowell - 1/31/2008 9:56:27 AM)
this assertion.  Where on earth does it come from, and if these people are so "progressive to liberal," then why don't they vote?


I'm (leftofcenter - 1/31/2008 10:00:34 AM)
on the other side of the fence. I don't think Clinton or Obama can beat McCain- the war hero, the former POW, tons of experience. I'm not sure why I think this but I have this awful sinking feeling of 8 more years of rethug rule. I do think they could easily beat Romney.


You've been beat up too much, and you're not the only one (The Grey Havens - 1/31/2008 11:09:12 AM)
In middle school they told us the story of a barracuda in a fish tank.  They'd put it in with another fish and he'd gulp that puppy up.  Then they'd put the other fish on the other side of a glass divider.  The barracuda would bang its head against the glass for days, but would eventually give up.

Thereafter, they could take the glass away, and the fish would swim all around the barracuda, but he wouldn't eat.  Eventually the barracuda died.

Party of why the netroots has been so important is that it has given voice to those of us who have beaten our heads against plate glass walls for so long.  Webb's victory was a powerful psychological victory for us, and if there ever was a call to action, a promise that victory is possible for progressive politics it's simply stated in three words:

YES! WE CAN!

Shout it from the mountaintops!



maybe or maybe not (Alter of Freedom - 1/31/2008 11:52:04 AM)
For sure if the Dems nominate Obama as they should if they really want to change the direction of politics they certainly would be favored over McCain regardless of some preconconceived notion about McCain's "conservatism". Fact is more Dems here in Virginia seem to have a more favorable view on McCain than any other Republican and thats saying alot. To Republicans Mccain is there Liberman for one thing and most independents here in Virginia would favor Obama in my view over McCain. This notion that independents will flock to McCain is overstated I think. I would rather see an Obama v. Romney debate in the General but that may be an uphill struggle from here to get.
Should the Dems nominate Clinton all best with those on the fence are off and would favor McCain certainly. Her negatives amongst the independents are still way too high while Obama's are virtually non-existant with independents. Should McCain win the nomination, Republicans will have to hope, pray for a matchup with Clinton.


I don't see any electoral math that gets Obama in the White House (SaveElmer - 1/31/2008 11:39:14 AM)
Against McCain...

Obama will win California, Washington (barely), Minnesota, Wisconsin (barely), Illinios, Michigan, Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts (barely), New York, Maryland, Connecticut, Delaware, and DC...

I see Oregon, Hawaii, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania as toss ups...

And McCain wins everywhere else...

McCain 290
Obama  201
Toss Up 58...



Lowell did a nice workup on this (The Grey Havens - 1/31/2008 12:43:14 PM)
here

Take a look.



Hmmm... (HisRoc - 1/31/2008 2:18:38 PM)
It would take very little word-crafting to substitute "Bush" for "McCain" and "Gore" or "Kerry" for "Obama" and make a very plausible argument in the seven areas you outlined.  By your logic, both Al Gore and John Kerry should have won by a landslide.

Most, if not all, of the polls I have seen of national preferences in a McCain-Obama race show McCain ahead by five points or more.  Do you really believe that the Republicans will be sitting on their hands while the Democrats execute the strategies that you propose?  

On the point that the Republican base wants McCain to lose:  would your logic work if Clinton was the Democratic nominee?  A lot of the Democratic base (including more than a few regulars here) are furious with Billary right now.  Would the Democratic base stay home and not vote or even vote for McCain just to see Clinton lose?  I don't think so and I doubt if the Republicans would do the same thing to McCain.    



Obama Raises $32 million in 30 days! (Lowell - 1/31/2008 2:22:12 PM)
Wow


Republicans would vote for him (Rebecca - 1/31/2008 8:09:50 PM)
I work with a guy who has made fun of Democrats for years. He is a Republican who calls Massachusetts "The People's Republic of Massachusetts". He is in the Army reserves and is very gung ho. You can imagine my surprise when he told me he would vote for Obama if he runs against McCain.


Can anyone find press or an anecdote of one single Republican ... (j_wyatt - 1/31/2008 8:25:20 PM)
willing to cross over and vote for Hillary Clinton?

One person, somewhere?



Mitt Romney. (aznew - 1/31/2008 8:56:09 PM)