Former Chicago NOW President dumps Hillary for Obama over false attacks

By: Rob
Published On: 1/23/2008 11:53:19 PM



Comments



Stop your "Hillary Hatred" Rob (Chris Guy - 1/24/2008 12:22:26 AM)
We all know that she's the only one who has the 35 years(!) of experience to save us from Obama's radical Muslim agenda.

Pointing out lies told by the Clinton campaign is a GOP talking point. Those right-wing whackos at NOW and NARAL have no shame....



Nice Post (Matt H - 1/24/2008 12:57:14 PM)
If Hillary supporters had half the sense of humor as your post, she'd have the nomination by now (no pun intended).


The video is messed up. (elevandoski - 1/24/2008 12:46:05 AM)
Can you find a new one?


It's working okay for me ... (Rob - 1/24/2008 9:48:41 AM)
... but here's the HTML link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...



Oh, no, round 2... (Hugo Estrada - 1/24/2008 1:47:30 AM)
Can we have a truce?  


No peace without justice (True Blue - 1/24/2008 12:54:45 PM)
It's funny how when Hillary was spreading the lies no one was calling for peace.  Now that she's being held accountable it's all "let's not fight."

I think we need to go through this process and really vette Hillary Clinton.  There is so much that is troubling about her pas tbehavior and her behavior in this election that needs to be aired and tested.  Let the voters hear the facts so they can make up their minds.



Do You Call This a Fact (Gordie - 1/24/2008 1:36:28 PM)
Yesterday Barack said "If Hillary gets the Nomination she cannot unite the country, BUT If I get the nomination I can unite the Country"

Now you tell me who is spinning racist remarks?



No, I call her many documented lies and distortions a fact (True Blue - 1/24/2008 1:52:27 PM)
Hillary has been caught repeatedly lying about Obama's record.  The lady in the video called out on just one of these lies.  There are others.  Those lies are facts, period.

Your quote from Obama is Obama putting forward a premise for debate based on those facts.  Obama's premise is that at some point in the future Hillary will be unable to unite the party.  The evidence he offers to support that premise are the dishonest attacks Clinton launched.

I agree with Obama because I know that I will never cast a vote for Hillary Clinton, and I am a rock solid Democrat.  I am sick of presidents who lie and I am unwilling to trade in lying George W. Bush for lying Hillary R. Clinton.

Now Hillary has to argue that she can unite the party and enough independents to win in November.  With her high negatives that will be difficult to do.  She can't even count on getting all serious Democrats to vote for her.  I will not knowingly place another serial liar in the White House.  I don't care if she is a Democrat: being a serial liar disqualifies Hillary Clinton in my book.



How the hell is that statement racist? (DanG - 1/24/2008 2:05:16 PM)
Nothing about race or gender or anything is even mentioned there.

Negative?  Yes.

Racist?  No!



I agree with Dan (True Blue - 1/24/2008 2:21:04 PM)
How is Barack Obama's saying that he can unite the party racist?


Ummm....because it's TRUE! n/t (Doug in Mount Vernon - 1/24/2008 4:28:15 PM)


What? (KathyinBlacksburg - 1/24/2008 6:57:08 PM)
What are you talking about, Gordie?


I think Gordie was trying to... (Dianne - 1/25/2008 3:48:50 PM)
imply that what Obama was saying was no more racist than what Hillary has said.  


Hallelujah! (Doug in Mount Vernon - 1/24/2008 4:27:36 PM)
I'm with you.

I think he can end the divisions of identity politics (see my diary about it).

I think a thorough examination of these tactics by voters is warranted.



Give us a link, please (Hugo Estrada - 1/24/2008 5:50:50 PM)
And I will surely read it :)


Take a step back for a moment, True Blue (Hugo Estrada - 1/24/2008 7:12:09 PM)
At the moment, Hillary Clinton is raking the negative press that she deserves for her behavior in the campaign. And as long as Obama doesn't have a sudden breakthrough strings of wins, Hillary wins the nomination through super delegates.

Obama has presented himself as the candidate of hope and unity. This is powerful stuff. Obama could energies people so that he gets that breakthrough win.

How do you stop it? Simple: you discredit Obama by spoiling for a fight. This may be enough to get potential independent and undecided voters away and disillusioned by Obama. :)

What is the alternative? Present the behavior of Clinton without attacking her person. Keep the moral high ground. :)



There's more (Chris Guy - 1/24/2008 2:53:41 AM)


"The Ideas Bill Forgot" (Lowell - 1/25/2008 8:54:56 AM)
Check out E.J. Dionne's column:

It was a remarkable moment: A young, free-thinking presidential hopeful named Bill Clinton sat down with reporters and editors at The Post in October 1991 and started saying things most Democrats wouldn't allow to pass their lips.

Ronald Reagan, Clinton said, deserved credit for winning the Cold War. He praised Reagan's "rhetoric in defense of freedom" and his role in "advancing the idea that communism could be rolled back."

"The idea that we were going to stand firm and reaffirm our containment strategy, and the fact that we forced them to spend even more when they were already producing a Cadillac defense system and a dinosaur economy, I think it hastened their undoing," Clinton declared.



Post Card Mailed in New Hamphsire By Clinton (Flipper - 1/25/2008 6:59:37 PM)
Here is the link to the post card mailed out by the Clinton campaign to NH voters at the 11th hour.  The mailer accused Obama of not willing to take a stand on Choice, due to Obama voting "Present" on a number of bills regarding Choice.  Of course, this was the strategy that pro-choice groups in Illinois had taken.  

Now all of this makes sense - that is why female voters in the 25-35 age bracket voted for her in NH, after she lost this group by huge margins in Iowa and was losing the same group nationwide.

And all of this was well known - but the Clinton campaign will say and do anything to win. Such sleaze....

http://www.barackoblogger.com/...      



Such sleaze? (Quizzical - 1/25/2008 7:31:01 PM)
This here's a good blog post putting this campaign and the media coverage of it in context:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com...

It's pretty much on target. They are magnifying very small difference because their positions are so much alike.

It's bizarre.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hil...

http://www.ontheissues.org/Bar...

Take a look at the dueling Clinton and Obama fact checking sites:

http://facts.hillaryhub.com/

http://factcheck.barackobama.com/

It's not sleaze, it's finding a way to lose the general election.