Now I'm a "conservative?"

By: Lowell
Published On: 12/29/2007 8:58:58 PM

According to Matt Stoller, I'm "much more conservative than most of us" -- "us" being liberal bloggers, I guess.  Yeah, must be my support for things like a carbon tax, universal health care, a strongly progressive tax system, a woman's right to choose, embryonic stem cell research, gay rights, repeal of "No Child Left Behind," SCHIP, a foreign policy that focuses on use of "soft power" and alliances rather than military force as a first resort, etc. Or, perhaps it's what Jim Webb said about the "old labels of liberal and conservative" not meaning a heck of a lot anymore.  

Finally, it may just be that I'm a pragmatic Teddy Roosevelt Progressive, happy to support -- gasp! -- non-purists like Mark Warner and Jim Webb (who I have disagreed with on occasion, but still overwhelmingly agree with).  Unfortunately, there are some in the liberal blogosphere who believe that a small tent's better than a big tent for the Democratic Party.  I respectfully, but strongly, disagree.


Comments



Didn't you hear, Lowell? (Johnny Longtorso - 12/29/2007 9:03:17 PM)
Anyone to the right of Dennis Kucinich is a conservative in Matt Stoller's mind.


Well said (TheGreenMiles - 12/29/2007 10:17:19 PM)
If Matt had said you were "more moderate" or "less liberal," fine.  I doubt Lowell would disagree.  But I'm getting a little tired of the attitude of, "You're with me or you're with the conservatives."  


Matt Stoller is much more of an ass than the rest of us (True Blue - 12/29/2007 10:47:21 PM)
I don't think he's ever achieved anything in the real world, so when he criticizing someone, it should pretty much be disregarded.

I hope Senator Webb disregards him.



He banned me from MyDD when (jiacinto - 12/29/2007 11:56:18 PM)
I disagreed with his argument that Al Wynn "stole the election" from Donna Edwards last year. When confronted with disagreement he shut down my account so that I couldn't post there any more.  


What a baby (Chris Guy - 12/30/2007 12:45:31 AM)
Yes, Matt. Every time your candidate loses a close election it was "stolen." I'm pretty sure Mark Warner had something to do with it.  


Yeah (jiacinto - 12/30/2007 1:38:45 AM)
I wasn't rude or disrespectful to him either. However, because I happened to disagree with Stoller, he shut down my account. I happened to disagree with the claim that Wynn "stole the election", and so I lost posting privileges.  


fyi (Politicalhack - 12/30/2007 3:59:20 PM)
Wynn didn't steal the election.  But the voting problems that occurred in Montgomery County could have cost Edwards the election.  Wynn had nothing to do with those issues.


Of course (jiacinto - 1/1/2008 1:43:43 PM)
But see the standard MO seems to be that, whenever a "netroots favorite" loses a close election, it must be "Diebold's fault" or the voting machines. There's no conceivable possible way that the voters might actually pick someone else.


It's not the "standard MO" (Lowell - 1/1/2008 1:57:00 PM)
here at RK, that's for sure.


Amen! (novademocrat - 12/30/2007 12:08:20 AM)
I honestly don't know why anyone reads his stuff anymore...I can't stand him.  


Labels used to fit argument (Ambivalent Mumblings - 12/29/2007 11:04:57 PM)
It's amazing how little those labels mean when used by certain people. One blogger on the right has called me a "liberal, a "flaming liberal" (which I guess is worse in his opinion than just a plain old liberal), progressive, communist, and a socialist after I've criticized Republicans. Amazingly, as soon as I actually praised something a Republican did, he referred to me as a moderate.


I don't think he meant it as an insult (Hugo Estrada - 12/30/2007 6:39:27 AM)
Matt was setting up a rhetorical device. He is trying to stress that the position that you have on Webb's opinions on immigration carry more weight because you are more moderate than other liberal bloggers.

After all, he said that you were "much more conservative" not that you were a conservative. "More moderate" or "more centrist" would have been a better way to express what what I think he is getting at.

Of course, you could always just ask him to clarify exactly what he meant. If he made an honest mistake, he can always edit his wording.

As for the old labels of liberal and conservative, it seems to me that we are living through one of those moments of realignment periods, similar to the ones that happened during FDR and LBJ times.



Entertainment? (Lee Diamond - 12/30/2007 4:45:26 PM)
It maybe entertaining for some junkies to dissect the ideologies of Mighty Matt & our friend Lowell, but who really cares?  If Mighty Matt is trying to establish some sort of PC standard, however, I would be concerned.

Lowell is probably a bit more of a moderate than I am, but Mighty Matt is pretty shrill IMO.



An overly simplistic view of the political spectrum (Kindler - 12/30/2007 5:29:08 PM)
Maybe when so-called centrists like David Broder criticize partisanship, they're thinking of people like Matt Stoller who see the world in such an oversimplified, narrow way.

The traditional continuum where everybody, every issue, etc. lines up perfectly from left to right is just as hokey as the Medieval belief in the Chain of Being in which the universe is organized according to a vast hierarchy, with God on top, followed by the king, then the male head of the family, etc. down to the lowliest bacteria.  For somebody like Stoller, there's only one shade of liberal, conservative, etc., so it's all so simple where to characterize everybody.

But look at the bright side -- at least Matt is reading RK!



Lowell, there is absolutely nothing about you (TennesseeBlues - 12/31/2007 11:47:06 AM)
or this site that I deem conservative. He's just out of the ring on this one.