"When it comes to sex, Democrats can't think straight"

By: Lowell
Published On: 11/13/2007 8:18:21 AM

Is  this the most unintentionally hilarious quote ever by a Republican in Virginia politics...or what?

"When it comes to sex, Democrats can't think straight." 

(Cheerios and milk shoot out nose) Yes, that gem comes from...you guessed it,the man we call "Sideshow" Bob Marshall. It comes in response to Gov. Kaine's wise decision to "cut off state funding for abstinence-only sex education programs, citing recent studies finding that teenagers should also be taught about birth control and condoms to protect against pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases."  As Gov. Kaine's spokesperson, Delacey Skinner, says, "The governor supports abstinence-based education, but the governor wants to see us funding programs that are evidenced-based."

So what's Sideshow Bob talking about?  Remember, this is the same guy who said that "having emergency contraceptives accessible on campuses would make college women 'frat boys' love canals.'"  This is the same guy who wants to TOTALLY ban abortion in Virginia.  This is the guy who wants to tighten the definition of adultery "to mean any person, being married, who carnally knows another person not his spouse."  This is the guy who is obsessed with stopping something he calls the "gay agenda" (presumably, the desire for the SAME RIGHTS as all other Americans, which is what gay people want?).  This is the guy who wants to make menstrual extraction a class 6 felony unless a pregnancy test is conducted first.  This is the man, "who refers to himself as Virginia's 'chief homophobe,'" and who believes "a woman's arm is constructed at a certain angle so that she can adequately cradle a baby."

In other words, when it comes to sex, it's BOB MARSHALL -- not Democrats -- who can't think straight.  In short, the guy's utterly obsessed with sex, but only in a bizarrely unhealthy way, along the puritanical lines of "the fear that somebody, somewhere, might be having fun."  And Sideshow Bob is going to do everything in his power to make sure that as few people engage in sex -- except, of course, for procreation and NEVER for pleasure, within the bonds of traditional marriage -- is not possible.
Oh, by the way, in the same article, Sen. Ken Cuccinelli demonstrates once again why Fairfax voters should have booted him out on November 6:

Sen. Ken Cuccinelli II (R-Fairfax) said he will try to get the General Assembly to reverse Kaine's decision when it convenes in January.

"The longer you delay the commencement of sexual activity, you have healthier and happier kids and more successful kids," said Cuccinelli, a conservative who beat his Democratic challenger this year by 92 votes, pending a possible recount.

Remember, Cooch also wants to outlaw abortion AND certain forms of contraception.  Cooch is the same guy who has said that gay marriage is "contrary to the laws of God and nature," and would somehow "rip society apart" if allowed.  And DEMOCRATS are the ones who "can't think straight" when it comes to sex? 

What. Ever.

P.S. Sideshow Bob is also keeping busy these days trying to oust Speaker Bill Howell.  Talk about not thinking straight...


Comments



What does this say about the voters who keep voting for him? (snolan - 11/13/2007 9:09:23 AM)
Are they obsessed with sex too?

I an ashamed to be in Sideshow Bob's district, but I gotta say, there is a huge disconnect.  Because the people I run into on the street, at the stores, my neighbors...  they just don't seem to be that focused on sex.  They are raising families, stuck in traffic, working too hard, gardening, raking leaves, fixing their trucks and cars.  I don't understand how so many of them can keep voting for this freak show.

It is sad, really sad....  and disturbing, and embarassing.



Forgot to say... (snolan - 11/13/2007 9:12:24 AM)
I am unhappy with the results of the election last Tuesday.
Oh, I am glad we got a majority in the state senate, but we failed to do the two most important things:

1) get rid of Marshall by more than 5%

2) get rid of Cuccinelli by more than 5%

These two extremists are not representative of their districts, nor even Virginians as a whole.  They have no business representing us.

For me, 2007 was not a success for those reasons.



Get Rid of the Extremists (jackiehva - 11/13/2007 10:38:02 AM)
The simple truth is, not enough Democrats and moderate Republicans voted against these two guys.  The far right know how to GOTV.  Fortunately, Dick Black was clobbered in his run for the 1st CD.  Unfortunately, we'll get him back in Loudoun.  Moderates are changing the color of VA but we have more work to do.


The point to make with voters (elevandoski - 11/13/2007 10:16:13 AM)
is how ineffective Sideshow Bob is given his obsession with sex. He's not at all an effective legislator who works in Richmond for their issues. 


I agree w/ the Governor (martha - 11/13/2007 9:37:52 AM)
Comprehensive Family Life education is BEST, needed, important and should be required in all grades with age appropriate info.for the younger students. If Health educators aren't properly trained or feel incapable of teaching the material then have them trained or pay for professionals to come into classes to do the educating!

Academic classes are the core of schools BUT if a child isn't healthy, becomes pregnant at an early age and/or contracts an STI all the academics in the world won't remedy the situation.



Remember, Cooch home schools his kids (PM - 11/13/2007 9:53:45 AM)
Sadly, his kids are probably the ones who need the sane, moderating influence of public education on sex the most.


Not all Homeschoolers are right-wingers (demdiva - 11/13/2007 11:26:44 AM)
There is a growing group of progessive homeschoolers here in VA -- we like public education just don't choose it for our own families, preferring the freedom to learn at home.  Many of us have worked very hard on DEM campaigns.  In fact, the most recent surveys indicate that most homeschoolers don't do it for religious reasons.  Check out www.vahomeschoolers.org 


Comment and question (PM - 11/13/2007 12:11:14 PM)
My brother-in-law home schooled his kids because the local system wasn't doing a good job.  Plus, one of the kids had a major behavioral problem.  And I support parents having the freedom to home school.  Public schools are not for every kid.

But the home schooling folks who are politically active in the (usually Republican based) pro-voucher movement tend to be anti-progressive; I've looked at the money trail in a number of campaigns.  Dick deVos is an example of a wing nut who finances extremist voucher causes. http://www.pfaw.org/...

Question -- Is that why the Virginia association you belong to does not ally itself with the national groups?  It seems some of the national groups have lots of political baggage.



no early-sex juvenile deliquency link (PM - 11/13/2007 9:51:09 AM)
http://www.washingto...

This story of there being no link between juvenile-delinquency and early sex was just widely covered in the national press.

The Post version's highlights:

It [a UVA study] found that identical twins, who have the same DNA, were more similar to one another in the ages at which they lost their virginity than were fraternal twins, whose DNA patterns are 50 percent the same -- an indication that genes influence the age at which a person will first have sex. Other twin studies have found the same pattern for delinquency.

Together, those findings suggest that some genes -- perhaps, for example, those that increase impulsivity and risk-taking -- may underlie both behaviors.

"You need to have some appetite for risk-taking to be a delinquent. And the same if you're 13 and going to have sex for the first time," Harden said.

Ha!  A UVA study.  Maybe Sideshow Bob and Cooch will try to cut funding for the UVA program that produced the study.

There's more --

Perhaps most surprising, the Virginia study found that adolescents who had sex at younger ages were less likely to end up delinquent than those who lost their virginity later. Many factors play into a person's readiness for sex, but in at least some cases sexual relationships may offer an alternative to trouble, the researchers say.

Here's the big danger with the Marshall/Cooch mentality -- it may be endangering children because early sex risk takers are precisely the ones who need to know about STDs, etc.

Even then, there are emotional and physical risks. Young adolescents, in particular, are less likely to use condoms and so are vulnerable to sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancies.

A personal note.  I was raised conservative Catholic and I now regard the sexuality teachings of the Church to be destructive and dangerous.  I really think there is some deep mental sickness underlying the psyches of legislators who wish to force their errant views of the world on others.



Would Marshall's head explode if (Lowell - 11/13/2007 9:54:44 AM)
he read this? :) 


This is the Christian point of view (citizenindy - 11/13/2007 10:22:25 AM)
Admittedtly some of the language is a little over the top but if you EVER want to get some of the values voters you need to treat these issues with a litte more respect


No, this is not the view of Christians I know (Lowell - 11/13/2007 10:24:29 AM)
This is the view of the Christian right, not progressive Christians, the vast majority of Catholics, etc.


For example (PM - 11/13/2007 12:01:41 PM)
Polls show that 97% of Americans, and American Catholics, have used forms of birth control forbidden by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.  There is substantial disapproval on similar issues (though none approaching the 97% level).

Another example -- a clear majority of members of mainstream denominations support civil unions for gays.  66% of white non-evangelical Protestants, and 61% of White Catholics support legal civil unions.

And just because someone says -- "this is what my religion taught me" does not get an exemption from logical, scientific, humanistic scrutiny of their beliefs.  We're not throwing virgins into volcanoes just because someone says god spoke to them.



I have no respect for Bob Marshall, (Lowell - 11/13/2007 10:25:46 AM)
Ken Cuccinelli, or their extremist views.  In general, I do not respect people who want to impose a theocracy, whatever their religion (Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu...).


Values Voters? (Eric - 11/13/2007 11:19:34 AM)
You've got to be kidding me.  Look, there is a certain percentage of people who really believe in what Marshall and Cooch are preaching.  If these are those "values voters" you're talking about, I don't give a rats ass if we "lose" every one of them.  They were lost to begin with and will never be found.

Thankfully the vast majority of citizens don't subscribe to the horribly outdated, uninformed, and controlling beliefs of Sideshow and Cooch.  The problem is getting this majority to the polls.  There is no problem convincing this majority that those loons are out of touch with the modern world. 

Just let go of that smaller percentage of solid Sideshow/Cooch votes - they're not ours, never were, never will be.  No loss here.



If those are their values... (Craig - 11/13/2007 6:36:11 PM)
....they they and the Republicans can keep them.


Great comment (Lowell - 11/13/2007 10:49:50 AM)
on NLS:

... abstinence-only sex education has been proven in study after study as a complete and utter failure. Not only does abstinence-only sex education fail to lower the rate at which teenagers have sex AT ALL, it also has been causally linked to increased incidences of STD's and teen pregnancies and.... here's the real stick in the side of Republicans... increased incidences of ABORTIONS.

Funny how the right always does everything it can to keep the rate of abortions as high as possible while it's the pro-choice movement that works to cut them down... No wonder abortions were down under Carter and Clinton, but up under Reagan and both Bushes.....

Republicans are the party of increased abortions.  Democrats are the party of reduced abortions.  It seems counterintuitive (mainly because of all the disinformation and propaganda from the right), but it's true.



Not thinking straight (Rebecca - 11/13/2007 12:50:49 PM)
Does he mean think straight as in not thinking gay? Or does he mean letting sex break up marriages and cause other problems, such as the antics of Tom and Jeannemarie Davis, Rudy, and others?


Missing the Point (Matusleo - 11/13/2007 5:45:40 PM)
I think folks are missing the point here.  We can have disagreements over the morality of these decisions (and we will).  The point is not that x percent of Catholics (or any other group) believe such and such in contravention of the teachings of their faith (or group, subculture, whatever). 

The point is that these issues do not win elections, except in rare circumstances.  Democrats made these issues their bona fides in the past and it cost them.  Now the GOP is doing the reverse; we can see how well it works for them.

When we work at lifting Virginians (and Americans) up, and giving them the power to decide for themselves how they want their children raised, they become responsible for their choices, and society benefits as a whole.  It is when we legislate away people's choices that they no longer feel they have any choices or responsibility for their actions that society crumbles.

Folks like Bob Marshall are not interested in giving people choices, they want to make the choices for us.  People who want to give my kids condoms at school (or whatever) and don't give me, the parent, a choice about that also want to make the choices for me.  This is why I like Virginia Democrats, because they understand this!

That is the real issue.

Matusleo
Ut Prosim



Outstanding Comment! (JMU Duke - 11/14/2007 10:43:03 AM)
Much like illegal immigration, this is another example of Republicans choosing the battlefield. Hopefully we will not take the bait. Let's set the agenda for once in Virginia, and talk about economic fairness, or why the U.S. has 25% of the world's prison population, or how we can go about exiling these Republicans who constantly increase spending while at the same time attempting to cut taxes. Let's get to the heart of matters here in VA and beyond and leave the dirty talk to Ken and Bob.