Joking About Concentration Camps is Not Funny
By: Lowell
Published On: 9/2/2007 9:13:14 AM
I can't believe I even have to write a headline like that, but apparently for some people, jokes about concentration camps are considered funny:
Near the end of a public meeting [Friday] to come up with a plan to address illegal immigration, top-ranking Stafford County officials made joking remarks about a 10-foot-tall fence and a concentration camp.
Unfortunately, this is what starts to happen when you've got demagogues whipping up mass hysteria, comparing illegal immigrants to child molesters, and focusing obsessively on every crime committed by an illegal immigrant -- while ignoring the fact that crime rates have dropped sharply in this country over the past decade. But why let the facts get in the way of some good demagoguery?
Ironically, the concentration camp joke came from Stafford Board of Supervisors Vice Chairman Mark Dudenhefer (R), after he said that he wanted the debate on illegal immigration to be "logical, considerate, methodic." As fellow supervisor Paul Milde said, Dudenhefer "needs to watch what he says." The sad thing is that some people need to be reminded about this.
Comments
It was no joke (Quizzical - 9/2/2007 10:10:08 AM)
A political gaffe is when a politician mistakenly tells the truth, and Dudenhefer should pay the full consequences for that. But his only mistake was using the term "concentration camp" instead of "detention camp."
Under international law, apparently [I don't pretend to be an expert on this], an illegal immigrant who is apprehended must either be deported, or placed in a detention camp, or released on bail. DHS currently operates some huge detention camps, and building more is what Congress is talking about when they discuss creating some 15,000 additional "detention beds" as part of immigration reform. In fact, all countries which have an illegal immigration problem have such detention facilities. So it is a fair question for Stafford County to consider: what's the point of a county trying to enforce the immigration laws, if DHS doesn't have enough "detention beds" to hold them? Is the county going to build a facility?
A nice photo of a U.S. detention camp accompanied this article in the Post:
http://www.washingto...
Comedy gold! (TheGreenMiles - 9/2/2007 10:24:10 AM)
I was at an open-mike night at Murky Coffee one time and an Arab-American comedian tried to make some Osama/9-11/terrorism jokes. Boy, did THAT go over well!
Let's make a list of stuff that's never, ever funny to joke about so Stafford County officials can print it out and keep it handy, shall we?
1. The Holocaust*
2. 9/11
3. Abortion
4. Hate crimes
5. Suicide
* - Making fun of Hitler still OK, especially his love of watermelon
Hogan's Heros Funny...Not (connie - 9/2/2007 11:46:52 AM)
When I was very young I used to loved the television show Hogan's Heros. When I learned the awful reality about what really happened in concentration camps I remember even in my late teens wondering how in the world someone could try to portray the Nazi's as blundering, often innocuous fools instead of the evil doers that they were. This issue came up when one of the actors died in the last decade and it was revealed that his parents were holocaust victims. Perhaps it was healing for him in some way to make fun of Hitler's Germany.
It doesn't say much about the human race that people might think these things are funny. But then again, it doesn't say much about the human race that people were put in gas chambers by the thousands within the last century. If there are more advanced civilizations on other planets, I am sure they don't think much of us......
Eventually... (Tom Joad (Kevin) - 9/2/2007 11:48:56 AM)
as with most comedy, the Holocaust will become a part of the fabric of humor. Just look other events in human history. The Bubonic Plague, the Spanish Inquisition, Roman lifestyle (including Gladiator matches), and even American slavery and racism are lampooned and used as humor. Everything on the list except for 9/11 that Miles mentioned in his top 5 will be most likely considered a topic that people can broach in 20-100 years.
nazi viral particals (pvogel - 9/2/2007 1:53:03 PM)
jeez, when you get dx'ed with hepatitus c, you realize the time to speak out is here......
When I call republicans nazis, my right wing friends dont like it. Now I can send them right to the party joke quarters....
And speaking of what you can and can't joke about... (presidentialman - 9/2/2007 2:49:06 PM)
Besides celebrating Lowell's birthday, Mort Sahl's birthday was May 11, and the anniversary of the death of Lenny Bruce was August 3rd. On top of that, we are about to enter the anniversary of Lenny's birth on October 3rd. Lenny Bruce made his life of being arrested by people "who've seen enough." Its said that you Jewish comedians who'd always end with the line "take my wife" in an "act." And then these two came;who are also Jewish. Mort Sahl's prop was a newspaper, Bruce talked about everything from his arrests to religion, to politicians to sex. No topic was too sacred for these two. These two really revolutionized the genre of stand-up comedy. Paved the way for Bill Maher,Richard Pryor, Jon Stewart etc.